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By infinite moonlight, US readies for war
Asia Times Online ^ | Aug 29, 2002 | David Isenberg

Posted on 08/29/2002 12:24:52 PM PDT by Gritty

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1 posted on 08/29/2002 12:24:52 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: Gritty
Reasonable people might be forgiven for being confused by media coverage of the so-called debate about whether or not the US will invade Iraq

Not what I've seen, I've watched on C-span both the VP's(VFW) and Rumsfeld's (camp Pendelton) speeches the last couple of days and there is no doubt in my mind that we will be going in to change some things around over there. Very soon

2 posted on 08/29/2002 12:31:12 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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"...there is no doubt in my mind that we will be going in..."

Yep...MUD

3 posted on 08/29/2002 12:34:54 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Gritty
"Here come the planes.....
They're American planes,
Made in America.
Smoking?
Or non-smoking..."

4 posted on 08/29/2002 12:48:00 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Gritty
Saddam and the Dems can rest easy. There won't be an "October Surprise".

More like a "September Shocker"...

It says a lot for the state of journalism in the U.S. that only foreign outlets (and ordinary people) seem capable of the painstaking research and exhausting exercise of logic required to put two and two together...

5 posted on 08/29/2002 12:49:03 PM PDT by okie01
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To: mhking
If sources say that the Qatar base replacing the Saudi one will be fully operational in Dec, then be assured that it's ready now. (Gee - even W saw Return of the Jedi...)
6 posted on 08/29/2002 12:50:02 PM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: mhking
Saddam Hussein: "This is your Captain...and we are going down. We are all going down, together."
7 posted on 08/29/2002 12:51:49 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: Gritty
MOVE 'ZIG'. FOR INFINITE JUSTICE.
8 posted on 08/29/2002 12:52:48 PM PDT by RichInOC
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To: OXENinFLA
Take your best guess when…

My money is on October 5th.

9 posted on 08/29/2002 12:53:13 PM PDT by Barnacle
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To: Gritty
My big fear is that the treasonous Dimocrats and RINOs will delay this effort to the point that Saddam is able to respond with great force. I know that sometimes deliberation is necessary but we need to move fast.
10 posted on 08/29/2002 1:12:33 PM PDT by adam stevens
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My money is on October 5th.

My guess is when we have enough smallpox vaccine stored to cover our entire population - whenever that is! The last I heard we were over half-way there, but that was several weeks ago.

11 posted on 08/29/2002 2:01:09 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: Barnacle
Better yet - Sept. 6th
12 posted on 08/29/2002 2:05:55 PM PDT by Notforprophet
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To: Gritty


"Thank goodness there's going to be a full moon...
We have to go-it-alone and this thing doesn't even have headlights.

13 posted on 08/29/2002 2:07:01 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
It doesn't look as if anybody will be able to knock Cheney off balance!
14 posted on 08/29/2002 2:10:43 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: Gritty
Bump for reading tonight.
15 posted on 08/29/2002 2:13:34 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Gritty
The Asia Times must be reading my posts :)

Posted by ScreamingFist to aristeides On News/Activism Aug 14 2:47 PM #19 of 23

Exactly. I figure it’ll work something like this.
The Turks are going to contain and hold Northern Iraq, also known as Kurdistan, against any tanks or infantry saddam can dig up and throw to the North. They’ll be supported by the Turkish air force as well as the USAF out of Incirlik AB in southern Turkiya. U.S. Special Forces and Army Mountain troops, supported by the Turks, push to the limit of the Northern No-Fly zone and secure it. This allows the Turks to control Northern Iraq, which will be their buffer zone after the regime change.

At the same time US troops, who just happen to be conveniently located in Jordan as we speak, will move to the Jordanian border to secure and defend, as well as give forward operating locations.

Mean while, the massive Marine invasion, supported by the USAF out of Qatar, hits Iraq from the Persian Gulf, secures Kuwait then moves all the way to the Southern No-Fly zone. Iraq now has No-Fly/No-Enter zones that effectively cut the country into three pieces.

The equipping and training of the Iraqi resistance begins, while saddam whines and cries from Baghdad. Anytime he moves something, the USAF destroys it. It’s just a matter of time at this point.

And I think we’ll see it BEFORE October. Only those that never attended jump training in Fort Benning Georgia in the summer would think that it’s “too hot” to fight in summer. And for this type of fighting, outside the cities, a huge amount of smart weapons won’t be necessary, plain ‘ole dumb bombs work just fine in the desert, so all this “we gotta restock the arsenal” is just another smoke screen. The democrats won’t get their October surprise (it’ll come before then) and they won’t win any seats in the house or senate either, since everyone’s eyes will be riveted to the happenings in Iraq. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies

Good analysis by the Asia TImes

16 posted on 08/29/2002 2:13:42 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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It doesn't look as if anybody will be able to knock Cheney off balance!

True. He IS known for having a low center of gravitas.

17 posted on 08/29/2002 2:18:52 PM PDT by Willie Green
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By the non-light of the new moon our troops will crush em.

We have enough armor and attack helicopters over there to pretty much destroy anything that gets in the way.

Anything but a Merkava or another Abrams that meets an Abrams on the field is going to die.

18 posted on 08/29/2002 2:19:33 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: Notforprophet
"Better yet - Sept. 6th"

Yeah, on or before that date is where my money's placed. Here's the scenario I've been toying with: Bush formally tells Congress next week that we're starting a heavy bombing campaign, but that "significant" (i.e., non-Special Forces) ground troops will not be sent in until Congress gives authorization. That notification triggers the War Powers Act, giving Congress exactly 60 days to make up its mind. Since the election is just over 60 days from next week, Congress would be forced to give a clear "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" on Iraq before the election.

That's the closest thing to a plebiscite our political system allows, and would be a very savvy move on Bush's part. It makes Iraq a campaign issue, without opening Bush to charges of politicking while the troops are in harm's way. And we'll need at least a few weeks of preperatory bombing to pave the way for an invasion in any case, so this plan doesn't compromise any military objectives.

19 posted on 08/29/2002 2:43:38 PM PDT by Fabozz
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To: Gritty
Bump!
20 posted on 08/29/2002 2:44:55 PM PDT by aculeus
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