[erikm88]

I'm sure this Japanese midget sub had time stamps, and documentation that showed we sunk it before the attack ensued, and this is the evidence that clearly shows we "fired the first shot.." right???

This coming from the University of Hawaii, is about as credible as Global Warming sceintists...

--erik

[Poohbah]

I'm sure this Japanese midget sub had time stamps, and documentation that showed we sunk it before the attack ensued, and this is the evidence that clearly shows we "fired the first shot.." right???

The USS Ward spotted, attacked with gunfire, and then depth-charged a midget sub attempting to gain entry to the harbor area at 0637 local time on 12/7/41. That was a full 78 minutes prior to the first aircraft attack. This midget sub was found close to the position of the Ward at that time, and has damage consistent with the Ward's account of events.

Yup, we fired first--and with good reason for doing so.

[El Gato]

I'm sure this Japanese midget sub had time stamps, and documentation that showed we sunk it before the attack ensued No but the skipper of the Ward documented when he fired on the sub, which was in a military restricted area, posted as such via a notice to mariners I'm sure. Sort of like you shooting a burgler while he's still on the porch trying to jimi open your window.