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1 posted on 08/29/2002 11:13:48 AM PDT by Asmodeus
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Did U.S. shoot first at Pearl Harbor?

Not according to this post. I'll paste some of it here.

At 6 am USS Enterprise launched Scouting Six

Also at 6 am the Japanese lanch there aircraft for the attach on Pearl Harbor

At some point one of Scouting Six came in contact with the Japanese before the attack

Pilot Ensign Manuel Gonzales, of Scouting Six, was heard on the radio to say

"Please don't shoot! Don't shoot! This is an American plane."

Moments later, he was heard ordering his Gunner aircrewman Leonard J. Kozelek to bail out: neither man was ever heard from again.

46 posted on 08/29/2002 11:48:11 AM PDT by al_c
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Yep...and the fleet waiting over the horizon was just taking a joy ride happend to be in the area when the brutal attack occured and rushed in to save their compatriots
50 posted on 08/29/2002 11:51:40 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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This is as logical as my shooting an armed man on my doorstep, then having to drag him inside. If they're there, they're there, and it ain't for tea!
57 posted on 08/29/2002 12:07:41 PM PDT by hoosierskypilot
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This ain't nothing new Most books on Pearl Harbor mention the incident of a sub be sighted and attacked before the main attack
66 posted on 08/29/2002 12:30:22 PM PDT by uncbob
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Kind of stupid speculation, in my book !

A whole Japanese task force steams within striking distance of Pearl Harbor, launches heavily armed planes, and a few mini subs, loaded with torpedos. It takes them weeks to get into position: the mini subs being launched well ahead of the carrier planes,because of their speed differences.

The author seems to be saying-because we sank one of the attacking subs before the actual bombing started, we started WW II !!!

80 posted on 08/29/2002 1:12:29 PM PDT by genefromjersey
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Only if you forget about the USS Panay in China Back in 1937.

For those who went to schools that teach about pink triangles but could care less if you know history. On Dec 11 Th. 1937 the Japanese attacked and sank the Gunboat U.S.S. Panay in China on the Yangtze River.And clamed it was mistake.

The Sinking of Panay, 12 December 1937

"Two Japans": Japanese Expressions of Sympathy and Regret in the Wake of the Panay Incident

PR-5 USS Panay

81 posted on 08/29/2002 1:19:09 PM PDT by quietolong
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Did U.S. shoot first at Pearl Harbor?

It doesn't matter. We won, They lost.

The only mistake we made was in not annexing them outright as part of the terms of surrender. Upon attacking us (and losing) they forfeitted any right to existence as a free country. Would have made a couple or three good states.

God Save America (Please)

82 posted on 08/29/2002 1:21:50 PM PDT by John O
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Is the writer of this article implying that the U.S. started WWII? What a stupid conclusion if that's the implication.
85 posted on 08/29/2002 1:42:40 PM PDT by stimulate
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What's important to me is what country fired the LAST SHOT:


91 posted on 08/29/2002 2:15:31 PM PDT by isthisnickcool
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Wow! If the mean old USA had not sunk the sub., Japan would not have retaliated and bombed Pearl Harbor. (Your lib. edu. money at work).
109 posted on 08/29/2002 4:33:42 PM PDT by BnBlFlag
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We also fired the last shot. Tell the revisionists that.
113 posted on 08/29/2002 5:53:42 PM PDT by RedwM
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