[jwalsh07]

The Bill of Rights lists NATURAL rights that are given by GOD to all. No Government has the right to remove these rights.

Look, nothing personal here skull, :-}, but you're wrong. Life and liberty rank up there right along side the the RTKBA. Are you arguing that felons can not have those rights abridged?

The state doesn't abridge the right of felons, the felons do that to themselves, sort of like when a Priest has sex with a young boy, he excommunicates himself from the church and is no longer entitled to the right of communion.

You have to learn a bit of nuance. I've already stated that all of these abridgements need to be case specific and as an aside they should be appealable.

But your lecture to me on Stalin and Mao and the Pope is falling on deaf ears. I'm well aware of the genesis of the second amendment and I support it. I have guns, I vote pro gun and I've contributed time and money.

On the other hand, felons who prey on the innocent and the weak are going to get zero sympathy from me. Maybe you could work on Sink?

[Travis McGee]

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well then, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."

~~Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

The US Code containing all Federal statutes consisted in 1999 of 56,117 single spaced pages, consisting of 47 volumes taking up nine feet of shelf space. That's not counting state, county and municipal laws, going back to 30 year old nonviolent misdemeanors, any one of which may be applied to disarm a citizen.

[inquest]

Suppose felons were to be prohibited, as part of their sentence, from criticizing the government, or from attending Catholic Mass. Would that be constitutionally kosher in your view? And is the second amendment any less sacrosanct than the first?