[Born in a Rage]

No. I didn't miss him, actually. We were better off without him. You are missing my point....I'm just trying to illustrate that MANY people grow up without a Dad around, not just people with a lesbian Mom - so whether or not the Dad is involved isn't even an issue.

[yendu bwam]

No. I didn't miss him, actually. We were better off without him.

You may not have missed him. Did you miss having a loving father in your life?

[yendu bwam]

I'm just trying to illustrate that MANY people grow up without a Dad around, not just people with a lesbian Mom

No doubt about that. But that does not make it a good thing to purposefully create fatherless families. It is a bad and selfish thing.

[Vinnie]

not just people with a lesbian Mom - so whether or not the Dad is involved isn't even an issue

My Dad passed away when I was 5, so I was raised by my Mom also.

This situation is completely different.
Apparently Teri is 'mom' to some of the kids and 'dad' to another. Shelly is 'mom' to one and 'dad' to the others. That isn't confusing to the kids???

These people think ( and many courts agree) that they have a 'right' to have a kid, regardless of trauma to the child.
It is selfish, no thought of the child.
Their getting pregnant wasn't and accident it was a conscious effort.