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Lesbian Couple Loses Custody Ruling

Posted on 08/28/2002 9:36:40 AM PDT by RCW2001

COLUMBUS, Ohio Aug. 28 — The Ohio Supreme Court on Wednesday rejected a lesbian couple's claim that both women are parents of each other's children, but said a juvenile court may decide whether to grant the women's request for equal custody.

In a 5-2 decision, the court sent the case back to the Hamilton County juvenile court that first rejected the request of Teri Bonfield and Shelly Zachritz.

It said the juvenile court has jurisdiction over deciding the custody of any child who is not a ward of the court, and can therefore determine whether the request is in the children's best interest.

However, Chief Justice Thomas Moyer wrote in the majority's opinion that the women can't be considered parents of each other's children because under Ohio law, "parent" typically includes only the biological or adoptive parent.

The couple's attorney, Sallee Fry Waterman, praised the decision.

"The court is saying you don't need to be considered a parent to have shared custody of a child," Waterman said. "The decision advances a need for courts to determine what's in the children's best interest regardless of the adult's title and to recognize nontraditional families in custody decisions."

The suburban Cincinnati couple have been together 14 years.

Bonfield adopted two sons in 1996. Using artificial insemination, she gave birth to a son in 1996, and then to boy and girl twins in 1998. Zachritz later gave birth to a son by artificial insemination.

While Bonfield is the natural or adoptive mother of five of the children, the couple said, Zachritz has been the primary caregiver and the children consider her their parent.

The couple say each woman needs legal custody of the six children in case they separate or one of them dies, and sought to "confirm their commitment that they will both continue to raise the children regardless what happens to their relationship," according to court records.

A juvenile court magistrate ruled the court didn't have jurisdiction to grant the couple's request because Ohio law does not recognize same-sex parenting. An appeals court upheld the decision.


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To: Born in a Rage
I'm just trying to illustrate that MANY people grow up without a Dad around, not just people with a lesbian Mom

No doubt about that. But that does not make it a good thing to purposefully create fatherless families. It is a bad and selfish thing.

21 posted on 08/28/2002 4:47:30 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: 1_American
Call me homoohobic ... but I don't think it's right for "gay" couples to have "pet" children

It's a sad thing to say to a kid: "Well, I just didn't think you deserved to have a dad." And for the sperm donor dad, it sad to say to a kid: "Well, I thought I'd bring you into this world without taking a smidgeon of responsibility for you, without ever caring about you or loving you, as a lark, for a few bucks. Your life was worth a few bucks to me."

22 posted on 08/28/2002 4:49:45 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: Looking for Diogenes
They don't have to decide. Just enforce the law of Nature.
23 posted on 08/28/2002 5:01:46 PM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: Dimensio
Give them to a hetero couple. The waiting lists for adoption are miles long.
24 posted on 08/28/2002 5:02:39 PM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: Born in a Rage
not just people with a lesbian Mom - so whether or not the Dad is involved isn't even an issue

My Dad passed away when I was 5, so I was raised by my Mom also.

This situation is completely different.
Apparently Teri is 'mom' to some of the kids and 'dad' to another. Shelly is 'mom' to one and 'dad' to the others. That isn't confusing to the kids???

These people think ( and many courts agree) that they have a 'right' to have a kid, regardless of trauma to the child.
It is selfish, no thought of the child.
Their getting pregnant wasn't and accident it was a conscious effort.

25 posted on 08/28/2002 5:04:58 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Give them to a hetero couple. The waiting lists for adoption are miles long.

They'll finally get a dad to love and care for them all their lives long.

26 posted on 08/28/2002 5:23:59 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Just enforce the law of Nature.

Laws of nature are self-enforcing.

27 posted on 08/28/2002 5:30:45 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: RCW2001
What a mess.
28 posted on 08/28/2002 5:44:08 PM PDT by pray4liberty
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To: Looking for Diogenes
Exactly, which is why queers get aids and die off like flies. As responsible adults, we should keep kids out of such volatile situations. Does it make sense to entrust our young people to a virulent strain of humanity that is being naturally selected against? of course not.
29 posted on 08/29/2002 6:35:11 AM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: Joe Boucher
Well, then, where did you acquire a warped sence of life?
30 posted on 08/29/2002 6:53:15 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: steve-b
Didn't, just a normal middle class life here pal. And I'm not gonna die from aids either. Whatever I do isn't a sick perverted lifestyle. How about you pal? Are you one of those sick freaks that should be exterminated? Or at least kept away from children?
31 posted on 08/29/2002 7:55:56 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Does it make sense to entrust our young people to a virulent strain of humanity that is being naturally selected against? of course not.

People who are susceptible to disease shouldn't have children? That will really reduce the gene pool.

32 posted on 08/29/2002 1:51:48 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: That Subliminal Kid
more straight people die of aids from straight sex than lesbians, we have the lowest amount of cases of aids, so we must be better than the straights.
33 posted on 11/05/2002 10:54:31 AM PST by legalwife
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To: yendu bwam
I can tell you are just a mean-spirited person and have no regard for the Same Sex Attraction Disordered (the SSAD.) Probably a religious conservative too.
34 posted on 11/05/2002 11:02:47 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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To: Dimensio
They should be decontaminated and deprogramed...?
35 posted on 11/05/2002 11:06:10 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: legalwife
more straight people die of aids from straight sex than lesbians, we have the lowest amount of cases of aids, so we must be better than the straights.

If you're lesbian, AIDS is the least of your problems.

36 posted on 11/05/2002 11:09:27 AM PST by A2J
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