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An 'Authentic' Conservative, Buchanan Parts With Bush
INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY ^ | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 | BY BRIAN MITCHELL

Posted on 08/28/2002 9:16:46 AM PDT by sixmil

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To: Zviadist
Sunstar:  he has been known to compliment and/or praise Hitler in the past
 Zviadist:  You are truly an IDIOT.
 

In a 1977 column, Buchanan said that despite Hitler's anti-Semitic and
genocidal tendencies, he was "an individual of great courage...Hitler's
success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an
intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness
masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood
in his path." (The Guardian, 1/14/92)

101 posted on 08/28/2002 11:54:07 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: Poohbah
Why not? It was a fairly stupid idea in 1972, and it didn't improve with age.

Well, it might have started WWIII.
You didn't comment
on union appeasing.  Why is that?

102 posted on 08/28/2002 11:55:41 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
Buchanan is clearly way out there. I don't know what his deal is, but the more I read about stuff he's written, the less I like. This guy is way off his rocker, and that is being charitable.
103 posted on 08/28/2002 11:57:15 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: rdb3
You're a damned lie. I, according to the dictionary, am a "neo-con," although I refer to myself as a post-conservative. The Left is my sworn enemy due to what it has done in the name of black people which is to send them back to the plantation. I loathe the left with a passion unknown to most men. So stick it.

Hahaha. You neo-cons hate history so much that you don't even learn your own. Your intellectual forefathers, the framers of the "neo-conservative" movement were all Trotsky-ites, to the person. So don't give me that crap about neo-cons being on the right. It's historically inaccurate and intellectually dishonest.

You think the liberals did-down the black man? You should see how the Trotsky-ites treated him. They have blown some opium in your lungs and you are following them around like a puppy dog. But they are the antithesis of "conservatism", which is a word whose meaning is self-evident. Neo-cons only want to conserve the gains of the state and the destruction of our civilization. You met any small-government neo-cons lately?

104 posted on 08/28/2002 11:57:24 AM PDT by Zviadist
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To: gcruse
That is hardly praise. Or are you having a hard time with reading comprehension?
105 posted on 08/28/2002 11:58:22 AM PDT by Zviadist
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To: hchutch
I was a fan of his for a while, probably from McLaughlin group. Maybe McLaughlin made him keep his anti-Jooz feelings in check.
106 posted on 08/28/2002 11:59:04 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: Zviadist
You are truly an IDIOT.

If you don't want to contribute to the discussion, then shut your big f*cking mouth. I'm sick of personal attacks from people like you.

107 posted on 08/28/2002 12:00:11 PM PDT by SunStar
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To: Zviadist
It sure is complimentary. Do you deny that, too?
108 posted on 08/28/2002 12:00:25 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: JohnGalt
Neo-cons on the otherhand, pay lip service to the forefathers, and prefer debating troop movements in the Middle East to conserving elements of our civilization.

A complete non-sequitur. "Pay[ing] lip service to the forefathers" and the ME do not naturally flow. Why should anyone pay more than "lip service" to the forefathers? They were men, afterall. It amuses me how some deify them. That's not to take away from the accomplishments they achieved. But they were men. Nothing but men. But you wouldn't know that listening to some people.

While an enlightened group of intellectuals will tolerate debate, the Neo-Cons have a policy of excommunicating any group that threatens their desire for ideological purity, thus fracturing the potential might of a truly Rightwing government.

I know you didn't. Look at FR, for example. If anyone desires ideological purity it's the far-Right! I, for one, am not having any of it.

NR's Bill Buckely excommunicated the Randians, Libertarians, and John Birchers in the '60s, and when Pat was making the most meaningful challenge to the ruling class in 1992, he was wheeled out to call Pat an anti-Semite.

JBS? You mean the ones who find a communist behind every tree? Spare me. "Ruling class?" Now you sound like a Marxist. And what do we have to do with libertarians?

By the way, Buchanan EARNED the label which you hate he has by what he said out of his own mouth. He has no one to blame but himself.

If their is a definable Rightist in this country, it is a person who believes that the current ruling elite needs to be replaces wholesale.

Shibboleth. Cornel West would agree with you about the replacing bit. That's not saying much, believe me.

The far-Right has no use for me and I for damn sure have no use for the far-Right.

109 posted on 08/28/2002 12:00:48 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: gcruse
There you go again with the smears without comments on the article.

This thread is about the article - not about your dossier smear file.

110 posted on 08/28/2002 12:02:12 PM PDT by ex-snook
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To: ex-snook
Hey, if you think I am offtopic, you know where the abuse button is.
111 posted on 08/28/2002 12:04:01 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Zviadist
You neo-cons...

Here we go again.

Your intellectual forefathers, the framers of the "neo-conservative" movement were all Trotsky-ites, to the person. So don't give me that crap about neo-cons being on the right.

I have no "intellectual forefathers." rdb3 speaks for rdb3, and rdb3 alone.

The rest doesn't even deserve a response. But, let me even it out for you. Buchanan, Sobran, Farrakhan, Jackson, Mfume, Bond, and Sharpton all deserve a family ass-whipping, and I'm just the one to do it.

Worthless. All of them.

112 posted on 08/28/2002 12:04:42 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: hchutch
"I seriously do not think Reagan would be doing things much differently in the current situation."

Agreed.

113 posted on 08/28/2002 12:05:11 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: gcruse
Well, it might have started WWIII.

Uh...nope. Not at all. But it would have legitimized strategic defense a lot faster.

You didn't comment on union appeasing. Why is that?

Reagan did what the law required him to do.

114 posted on 08/28/2002 12:05:37 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: rdb3
I'm with you, if you'll have me on board.
115 posted on 08/28/2002 12:06:27 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: Poohbah
You met "Uncle Ron?" That's why my dad called him and became a "Reagan Democrat." He loved how he showed the ATC the door for going on strike when it violated their contract.

Ever since then, he's referred to Reagan as "Uncle Ron."

116 posted on 08/28/2002 12:07:06 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: Poohbah
"Well, for a brief (sadly, all too brief) moment, you were following the wisdom of 'It is better to keep one's mouth shut, and merely be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.' "

I'll BUMP to that!

117 posted on 08/28/2002 12:07:12 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: hchutch; rdb3
Count me in.
118 posted on 08/28/2002 12:08:08 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
Reagan did what the law required him to do.

You don't think much of Reagan, do you?
He just put in a yeoman's job and left office.
Well, I think he was the greatest president
of the century, a great conservative, and
a great man.  But that's just me.

119 posted on 08/28/2002 12:08:29 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
I bet you voted for Perot, didn't you. Or are you related to him? You certainly talk like him.
120 posted on 08/28/2002 12:10:55 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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