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To: Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
I don't bet, but figuratively speaking, yeah, I'd put in on the Nazi scumbags I guess.

Course, if they cancelled each other out nice and purdy like, well, that'd suit me just fine!

49 posted on 08/27/2002 1:42:29 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I don't bet, but figuratively speaking, yeah, I'd put in on the Nazi scumbags I guess.

Course, if they cancelled each other out nice and purdy like, well, that'd suit me just fine!

Since that is never going to happen, lets bring this discussion back closer to reality.

What group - radical leftists or radical rightists - is better represented in the media? Which group has actual access to influencial people? Which group has sympathizers within the ruling elites? Which group has an actual chance of influencing policies which effect you, personally? Which group is more likely to attack you, either directly, physically, or indirectly through politics? Which group serves as a front group for, or the "bad cop", to the "good cop", of mainstream ruling elites, to further the interests of these elites? Which group serves as the "bouncer" or the thuggish street enforcer, for the policies of these elites?

The answer to all these is: radical leftists. The radical right is irrelevent, and has been ever since conservatives accepted the double standard foisted on them by the left, that certain views, policies, ideas, positions, politics, etc., were beyond the pale of public debate. The right has been fighting with one hand tied behind its back ever since (at least since WWII, or the 1950's at the latest). The mainstream left can use extreme left nutballs as "useful tools" for all kinds of projects; the right no longer has such an option to use its own extreme right. Hence, post-WWII politics has been a leftward ratchet: our politics can move leftward, but never rightward; the most "conservatives" can ever do is slow the ratchet effect a bit.

And let's not fall for the canard that "nazis" are leftists because they are socialists - leaving aside that in pre-WWII Europe many conservatives advocated forms of socialism, the fact is that, today, very few extreme rightists of any kind advocate socialism. There are a few nazi purists today who do advocate socialism, but these are a tiny minority within a tiny minority. Your average extreme rightist today wants a smaller government; right wing socialism is a fossil from the pre-WWII era.

In any case, neither extreme right or extreme left are going away. It's time to dispense with the wish-fulfillment fantasies. A reassessment of political realities by conservatives would be a welcome thing, but I suspect it will not happen until we have a massive crisis of some kind. Until then conservatives will play at politics and live in fear of being tarred with the "extreme right" label(s).

52 posted on 08/27/2002 3:10:14 PM PDT by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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