[wimpycat]

You're right. We live in the real world, not an ideological vacuum. Talking about what's wrong with the country is one thing. Doing something about it is quite another. Some of us are going to actually be doing something now, not waiting for the perfect conditions, not creating false obstacles, not coming up with excuses for inaction.

[bvw]

The black population in America has demonstrated quite well the type of "leaders" one gets when one mariginalizes to non-existance the "fringe voters" for the sake of supporting one party. In fact it is the fringe parties that introduce many ideas, and serve as checks to such complete amorality.