The Environmentalists Are Wrong

The New York Times ^ | 08/26/2002 | BJORN LOMBORG

[GaryMontana]

Europe and the rest of the world are blaming the US for failing the world's poor and destroying the environment. Tensions are emerging between those who want our money (Britain and most of the world) and the US even before the latest Earth Summit (which is meant to blame the USA for everything, as well as, take as much money from us as possible) in Johannesburg. See August 26th London Times.

Hmmm, now how many colonies did the USA have around the world? How many people did we enslave in Africa, Asia, and the rest of the world? Didn't the British Empire empirically control 1/3 of the world, what about France, Holland, Germany, Spain etc… Yet the world is blaming the USA because the world is poor.

Let those wonderful nations that put these people in poverty, used their cheap labor, and stole their minerals pay for the mess they created.

THE USA IS NOT TO BLAME. Perhaps Europe should look themselves in the mirror for most of the problems of the world. The third world is also to blame for their problems. They often created their mess through their corrupted leaders. The USA has no share in the blame, and we should refuse to accept any guilt. Perhaps the rest of the world should learn to fix their problems, instead of using the USA, Christians, Jews or Israel as whipping boys to blame all their own failings on.

Two last questions. Couldn't the poor in the world have been helped by giving all the money it cost to create this conference to them? Wouldn't the environment be better off with out the waste of fossil fuels it took to get to this conference? If these people don't care enough to send their money to the poor and help the environment, why should we?

[Vidalia]

They were never right.

Organizations like "Ducks Unlimited" proved that nearly 40 years ago without the help of long-haired maggot- infested, flea-ridden stink-assed Anarchists who are funded by other lunatics...

In the coming months and years more and more suits will be brought against these Eco-Liars asking for documented proof, proof they will never be able to provide and the monies provided them will begin to dry up...

[11B3]

Another conference displaying the obvious to those who don't get it yet here in the USA:

Get the US out of the UN!
And get the UN out of the US!!

[foghornleghorn]

I agree with him except for his assertion that it is demonstrated that man's emission of carbon dioxide has caused warming. This is not proven by any empirical evidence, only by models. I don't believe man has anything to do with global warming, if it is indeed happening.

[rogue yam]

Anyone who doubts that the Socialists are using environmentalism as a stalking horse for enforced global redistribution of wealth need only glance at this "summit" to have their doubts dispelled.

This whole confab is almost indistinguishable in its rhetoric from the "Millions for Reparations" hate fest last week. It's all "You owe us!" just in different languages.

Sounds like the opening ceremony was a real wingding, though. All they needed was Bubba and his bongos and it would have been just like old times. Too bad.

[missileboy]

You should check out his book, "The Skeptical Environmentalist". He discusses these models in detail.

[M. Thatcher]

Psst: The earth is fine.

Your IQ, however, is not.

[doug from upland]

Brilliant. I think he has been on the Dennis Prager show before.

[steelie]

Those who don't mind or can't afford to clean up thier own filth will suffer the consequences.

World population stabilizes when people are happy and have a self realized future. Only capitalizm can give them that.

[missileboy]

TO: Party Headquarters

Pokey and other capitalists (of the white, upper class persuasion) are exploiting the proletariat that produce their TV's and bananas. Comrade Bagelsn'cheese is an advocate for the non-white, lower class and the "disenfranchised". Though I was previously unaware that there was a Bolshevik satellite operating in Tel Aviv, I'm encouraged to learn there are comrades in arms fighting for the workers of the world in that region of the globe. Perhaps comrade Arafat should get in touch with him soon so we can further our totalitarian, collectivist agenda by continuing to use the environment as a smokescreen for class division and wealth redistribution to other comrades. Advise someone from party headquarters to contact him soon.

Signed

Boris

[steelie]

New member... Say's he's from tel aviv...

yea Right

[goldstategop]

I'm surprised the New York Times allowed such politically incorrect comments to be published! Someone on the newspaper must have assumed Bjorn Lomberg is the run of the mill radical "sustainable habit" Green. Rest assured they won't be making that mistake again. Lomberg is a true breath of fresh air in the overheated hothouse of environmental assumptions which basically tend to promote bigger government and push the realization of an idealized environmental state over human needs. Lomberg points out the conference in Johannesburg misses the big picture which is that a lot of environmental damage in the developing world is due to the fact people have to survive first and think about nature later. The buzzword of "sustainability" would simply doom millions to an inferior and wretched existence just so affluent Western greens can feel good about themselves. If there was genuine concern for the environment, we'd junk Kyoto and all the totems of the modern environmental movement and get the Third World into the 21st century as quickly as possible. Perhaps the U.S can help to lead the world to a new environmental ethic that gives every human being an opportunity to have a rich and fulfilling life and which balances environmental protection while making sure people's wants and needs are satisfied. Which is precisely the environmental policy we need today.

[steelie]

Read Richard Pipes book "property and Freedom" it tells the truth that you must first own yourself and the things you aquire to be a free man.

Including your thoughts!

[LloydofDSS]

>>Only a real chump or moron would actually believe that this planet is in great shape and if we keep destroying all vegetation and allow the population to move forward unhindered, that mother earth will not care. <<

So you believe all the propoganda about humans destroying all the vegetation? You better wake up, it is not happening.

Did you know that in the developed world, the human population is NOT growing. What can we do here in the US to reduce the population increases in other third world countries? The only thing we can do is export capitalism, which is another word for human freedom.

[kennyboy509]

You're spout'in preprogrammed diatribe. The sky is not falling. Read the "sceptical enviromental" if you're not to afraid of some other "VALID"points of view. (which is real diversity) cityboy, You don't know squat about nature other than the enviromental McCarthyism thats been put into your brain. I know what you're gonna say before you do. Are you are real person? or a useful idiot as the communists called them?! (now "good ole cuntry comforts gonna defend himself. Watch out!!)

hooya here comes more "original thought"

[steelie]

He set it up as a straw man that could easily be blown down.

Just more thoughtless drivel.

GIVE ME SCIENCE>>>GIVE ME THOUGHT

[DennisR]

Upon which universe and/or planet are you living? We have more trees in the U.S. right now than we did 75 years ago. Please do not think man is powerful enough to destroy the planet--because he cannot. Of course he can make small dents in it, but those are typically localized; for example, smog in L.A. But if you have ever flown from, say, Seattle to Atlanta, you will see a lot of empty space filled with farms and trees. We are not even close to killing this planet...not even close. Do not always believe what you read or hear from the mainstream media. After all, their bread and butter is controversy, and they will do just about anything to create ir and/or foster it.

[Cold Heat]

Latin countries to have low work standards and low wages to enjoy our cheap TV's and fresh bananas - they are third world because we want them to be - we give out food aid because we would rather them be dependent.

I'll remember this rant the next time I go to Walmart!(Probably be tomorrow!) :-)