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If you are going to make the same argument over and over, be prepared to get the same response likewise.

Every time I asked you to simply pledge that you admit you wrong -- but only if it turned out to be true, you changed it into that I was trying to get you to admit it now. That's not the same thing. Correcting you is not repetition.

As I have said before, before the raid had begun, undercover officers had handed out cards to people they had reason to believe were legitimate customers. All someone had to do was whip out this card, and they would not be arrested. Therefore, every single person arrested was because they had committed a crime. Next!

So, you are asserting that every person that was supposed to get a card received one. Yet, there are people that were arrested even though they were waiting to depart the premises when the police arrived.

So, I believe innocent people were arrested. I doubt all of them were completely innocent, but recent information (that K-Mart never signed a complaint) indicates no one was committing the crime for which they were actually arrested. And, I believe that the courts will confirm that. Even now, the district attorney is saying that he will dismiss all of the charges if it turns out that anyone was improperly arrested.

As a result, those people that had been committing some crime will have their arrest dismissed. You have expressed concerned that the truly guilty will get away with this, and it's a valid concern. But, that's the HPD's fault: if they had only arrested people that had committed a crime, there would be no controversy.

That sound you just heard was me falling out of my chair from laughing so hard.

Why? You insisted that no one in the HPD did anything wrong. Now, you admit that Aquirre might not get away unscathed. If it quacks like a duck, it's usually a duck.

Controversial arrests means bad PR. A lamb must therefore be sacrificed for the preservation of the image of the Houston Police Department.

Controversial arrests are indeed bad PR. Illegal arrests are even worse. So, what will you do if more officers are reprimanded, fired, or prosecuted for illegal arrests? Will they be "sacrificial lambs" as well? How many have to be "sacrificed" before you admit that the HPD did indeed act improperly?

[pointless repetition edited]

I think a refresher course in reading comprehension and perhaps a honing up on your debating skills would be in order. This is made obvious by your assertion that the mere mention of two people by name, placed within a very relevant context is trying to change the subject, as well as the "challenge" which is referred to in the frequency of every other paragraph.

Those two other people are in distant jurisdictions and prosecuted for entirely different crimes. How are they relevant to this incident?

I am now more than tired. I am bored. I respectfully request here, in a public forum, you address no more correspondence to me.

If you want to run away, be on your way. Per your wish, I won't address this to you. Instead, I'll address it to everyone else that has been following this thread, and let them decide which one of us is discussing this issue honestly.

Have a nice day.

239 posted on 08/28/2002 4:00:05 PM PDT by justlurking
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To: justlurking
You know, I was just going to coast along and speak with other people on this issue, but I'll be damned if I am going to allow you or anyone else to question my integrity just because I do not agree with you.

I may have sent some personal insults toward some people here, but not once have I accused anyone of being dishonest.

Here is my bottom line: I want a public apology RIGHT NOW, or your posts get forwarded to Jim Robinson.

256 posted on 08/28/2002 8:42:52 PM PDT by Houmatt
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