Already did it, long before you entered the conversation: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/738956/posts?page=84#84
2) Confess the cases of Rodney King, Amadou Diallo and Randall Webster, et al, do not represent the respective police departments involved, or the law enforcement profession, as a whole
You forgot Pedro Oregon (shot nine times in the back by Houston PD in 1998. All six officers were fired). While they are not representative, it's irrelevant to this discussion.
3) Endorse the idea that police officers should be treated with the utmost respect
As long as police officers do the same for the citizens they serve, absolutely. Personally, I've only experienced one instance where an officer did not do so, and when I talked to his commanding officer, he agreed.
4) Agree they are being ridiculously low sums of money for literally placing their lives on the line for the safety of the public on a daily basis
I don't know what police officers are paid, but it's a job like anything else. If they don't think they are fairly compensated for the risks, then they should find another job. Sorry, but you are changing the subject again.
5) Recognize police shootings and deaths that occur during high-speed chases as a whole are not the fault of the police
What's the relevance of this? Why are you seeking absolution for things that have nothing to do with this incident? Is it because you realize that you have nothing to back your position and are desparately trying to change the subject?
...then I will say you made some good points and agree to disagree, as Niki has with myself.
No, that's not good enough. Your agreement with Niki has nothing to do with me. My challenge remains the same. If internal affairs and the courts decide that the police did nothing wrong, then I withdraw my objections and admit I was mistaken.
But if that doesn't occur, you have to do the same. Not "agree to disagree". A public admission of error. Are you "going to be a man" about this, or not? So far, it appears that you aren't.
The stakes are getting higher: the Houston PD has now suspended a total of 13 officers. Aguirre "was suspended because of allegations that he tried to influence other officers' statements to investigators about the incident." That's a serious accusation: criminal, not administrative. Do you really think he is going to get out of this without serious damage to his career, if he keeps his job at all?
Oh, I just realized: you know that Aguirre is in deep trouble. That's why you are trying so hard to change the subject. Others have accused you of being Stone Deaf. Clearly, the Artful Dodger is a better description.
Nope. Not at all. I was trying to gauge your feelings for police officers. Every single point I made are 100% valid, yet you refused to agree with all but one.
And why would I do this? Because your attitude towards the police reflects how you feel about this matter. The facts do not jibe with your assertion these 278 people were all completely innocent; their only crime being in the K-Mart parking lot. (By the way, since you seem to be a stickler for updates, here is the latest, in case you have not read it already.)
No, that's not good enough. Your agreement with Niki has nothing to do with me. My challenge remains the same. If internal affairs and the courts decide that the police did nothing wrong, then I withdraw my objections and admit I was mistaken.
But if that doesn't occur, you have to do the same. Not "agree to disagree". A public admission of error. Are you "going to be a man" about this, or not? So far, it appears that you aren't.
The only problem with this is, I have to agree to it. And I don't. Why? Because I do not have to.
And if "being a man" means agreeing with you, well, I have lived this long without caring about your definition of a man, why should I start caring now?
Oh, I just realized: you know that Aguirre is in deep trouble. That's why you are trying so hard to change the subject.
Wrong again. The only thing I realize is what is going to happen as a direct result of this: These groups who choose to hang out on private property and engage in criminal behavior will only get worse, because the little punks and completely irresponsible morons whom said groups are comprised of know from this point on, nothing will happen to them.
Others have accused you of being Stone Deaf. Clearly, the Artful Dodger is a better description.
And, it should be also clear I just don't care what they, you, or anyone else thinks of me. You want to flame me because neither I, nor the facts, agree with you? Get over it! I have.