[justlurking]

OK, I'll make you an offer. If:

• the grand jury refuses to indict anyone for official oppression
• the suspended captain is reinstated without any penalties or reprimands
• everyone arrested is convicted of criminal trespass
• no one is successful in obtaining a settlement or judgment for false arrest
• neither K-mart or Sonic file any complaint against the police for their actions

I have to amend my offer, due to the recent developments:

6. The ten police supervisors relieved of duty are reinstated without penalty.
7. No other officers participating in the raid are fired, reprimanded, demoted, or otherwise penalized.

If you are going to accept my challenge, you had better do it quickly, before the stakes get any higher. The Houston PD administration apparently doesn't agree that "the facts are in your favor", and are imposing sanctions that will have to be repealed in order to substantiate your claim that the raid was legal and proper.

[No Truce With Kings]

Get the feeling you are dealing with this

flame warrior?

[Houmatt]

Here is my own offer:

If you:

1) Admit that most police officers are not evil beings

2) Confess the cases of Rodney King, Amadou Diallo and Randall Webster, et al, do not represent the respective police departments involved, or the law enforcement profession, as a whole

3) Endorse the idea that police officers should be treated with the utmost respect

4) Agree they are being ridiculously low sums of money for literally placing their lives on the line for the safety of the public on a daily basis

5) Recognize police shootings and deaths that occur during high-speed chases as a whole are not the fault of the police

...then I will say you made some good points and agree to disagree, as Niki has with myself.