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To: FreedomFriend
Let's make sure the issue in focus is unfettered illegal immigration, not that a particular ethnic or cultural element that displeases us is comprising the new wave.

The maps showing the demographic concentrations of specific ethnic resident within cities, these tables and figures illustrating the population growth of particular ethnic or racial groups in select geographic areas, are really irrelevant to the discussion. The issue is illegal immigration by ANY foreign national, of any ethnicity, not the influx of any particular group.

Do we have too many Mexicans in Los Angeles and San Antonio? Are there too many Germans in Milwaukee? Are there too many Cubans in Miami? Are there too many Irish in Boston, too many Greeks in Detroit, too many Norwegians in the UP, too many Italians in Philly, too many Koreans in Seattle, too many Mormons in Salt Lake City? That's not for us to judge.

Mexicans, like Germans and Cubans and Poles and Russians and Scandanavians before them, should be expected to assimilate into the American culture - our language, our work ethos, our respect for the rule of law and property - as a precondition to their authorized entry here. No welfare from the people of the communities they are joining. If they don't have employment or a sponsor, they're not welcome here. Period. If they're not given a means of life sustaining resources by a third party (i.e. Government), they'll leave on their own. They won't starve when in the umbrella of family and friends in their homelands of Mexico, or Somalia, or Estonia or Malaysia. The guy with a sturdy back isn't going to bring Grandma and the toddlers into this country with him if there isn't some insipid ghoul from a Social Service Agency, Immigrant Support entity or left-wing religious advocacy mob there to take Grandma and the kids by the hand, and walk them down to the County Center to get them signed up for the food stamps, health care, housing and enrollment into public school systems that they are going to need to live amongst us.

If we have 20 million, 30 million or 50 million native born Mexicans here legally, working honestly, embracing English language and American cultural tools, obeying the law and raising their families in a peaceful, honorable and prosperously constructive manner, that's fine with me. We've got plenty of room for newly arrived Americans of good faith, hope and conduct. That's what we're about.

75 posted on 08/24/2002 4:55:04 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
Please, stop the semantics. You know that we do not have millions of illegal Germans or Italians. We have Americans of German ancestory, but they aren't illegal. Furthermore, no where did I state that all "Hispanics" were illegal. I used the maps to show the scope of illegal immigration. Being that the overwhelming majority of illegals are coming from Mexico, and being that Mexicans are classified as "Hispanic", it stands to reason that comparing the differences in percentages among "Hispanics" for the years 1990 and 2000 would reveal the true scope of the invasion. Your little spin is you trying to divert the attention where it needs to be.

Furthermore, if you think that our country can take this many illegal Mexicans, totally alien to our culture and way of life, then you are mistaken.

Enough with the political correctness. Why do you wish to run Americans out of their communities? Answer the question. Why do you wish to subvert Americans to an alien, third world culture and living conditions? Why do you wish to lower wages? Why do you wish to force Americans to move due to economic conditions?

It's time you answer these questions, for without them, I'll chalk it up to you wishing to Mexicanize the United States of America.

91 posted on 08/24/2002 8:00:18 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: ArneFufkin
Let me ask you Arne, do you even understand the concept of nationhood, and what you are advocating is a modern day Tower of Babel, as if it's not already here.
98 posted on 08/24/2002 8:13:52 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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