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To: ArneFufkin
And I suppose Turd World culture is better? And, by the way, European culture, to name but one example, is the interior of the St. Vitus Cathedral at Prague. Ever been there?
373 posted on 08/24/2002 11:15:46 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: Phillip Augustus
You're culture isn't in jeopardy, pal. I don't even care to consider what you consider a superior culture. It ain't you.

I'll bet when your raggedy assed ancestors stumbled off the boat, there were a lot of folks there to predict doom, despair and "agony on me". Sometimes, they get it right.

Your use of "Rhodesia" is insightful to me. I'm outta here, the stench is perkin' up a bit.

386 posted on 08/24/2002 11:20:25 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Phillip Augustus
European culture, to name but one example, is the interior of the St. Vitus Cathedral at Prague.

Cheap labor bump.

401 posted on 08/24/2002 11:26:17 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Phillip Augustus
And I suppose Turd World culture is better? And, by the way, European culture, to name but one example, is the interior of the St. Vitus Cathedral at Prague. Ever been there?

No, and seriously, I want to visit Prague. I understand the cultural significance of that city going back to the 1400s. It's a really beautiful city I understand, when it's not under water.

But, it's not a European or Third World choice. We are neither. We have an American Culture, it is distinct and unique and powerful, and it is fueled by the dynamic vitality that new American immigrants escalate and benefit through their involvement and energy and motivation.

No, Europe is moribund and paralyzed and lethargic. A person born in Italy can become a fully accepted American, but an American born person can never really become an Italian. Or French. Or Swiss.

That's our winning edge. American culture is founded upon very sacrosanct pillars of individual freedom, personal industry and responsibility, shared ethics of hard work, family and God, and a common fellowship transcending ethnicity, race and religion. And I don't fear the Mexican contribution to this precious mix, it will be every bit as empowering and postitive as all immigrant contributions have been to the American family since day one.

We NEED to get full and well conceived control over the movement of everyone crossing our borders. If we make the inevitable movement of guest workers from Mexico legal, supervised yet easy, less people will choose to cross the Rio Bravo at midnight during a new moon. But, all issues surrounding the influx wil be mitigated if we first obliterate the cynical and destructive incentives to come here that ill-willed political operators are dangling in front of indigent and good willed foreign nationals. That's the kill shot, not pretending we can do a Elliot Ness roustabout to net the millions that are here among us now.

By the way, that bastion of European civilization you offered (The Czech Republic) has a GDP of $115 billion, which is less than the Gross State Product of about 30 of our United States. The Gross Domestic Product of the United States is over $10 trillion annually from a population of 270 million. Italy is $1.1 trillion from 58 million Italians. France is 1.3 trillion from 60 million. Germany is $1.8 trillion GDP from 83 million population. The UK is $1.2 trillion from 60 million. Netherlands $348 billion from 15 million. Spain has 40 million people, and they do $650 billion GDP annually. Greece has 11 million folks and they produce $143 billion annual. That's a population of 327 million Europeans in those 7 countries producing about $5.2 (half of the US) trillion in GDP with 50 million more people. I like our position and system, thank you very much.

The American mix and match thing works. It always has, and it always will as long as we keep the lefty Government goblins from corrupting our system. That's the job of each and every one of us, on a local level, every day and through individual and grass roots bust-your-butt effort.

The yellow brick road to the American dream is not for you, me or anyone else to shut down. We need to manage the traffic, but it is open for passage, now then and forever.

628 posted on 08/25/2002 3:01:24 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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