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To: Sabertooth; Poohbah; JohnHuang2; Miss Marple; LS; BOBTHENAILER
I'm in category 2.

I believe those who have a job and who have committed no crimes other than entering illegally ought to be allowed to remain and tracked into either a bracero program or permanent residence that should not displace those currently going through the process. They should be required to develop proficiency in the English language, and English ought to be the official language of the United States.

I'm on record as favoring deportation of criminals, those caught entering with drugs, those who have gone on welfare, or who are believers in Aztlan.

I'm open as to the time period for which a partial amnesty would be in effect, and as to the specific details, but I do not think there should be a "deport `em all" policy. Those who have been employed, who are working hard and busting their butts to make it here, ought to be allowed to remain, and go legit.

To be quite honest, I feel I have more in common in a cultural sense with those "Illegals" who have taken major risks to get into this country than I do with those who have their hands out for reparations or Euroweenies who seem to enjoy slamming us.

Free Republic calls for "the EFFECTIVE control of illegal immigration" in the About page. And I think that there is room for debate on what exactly would constitute EFFECTIVE control.

For me, I'd rather DOJ focus on the violent criminals, drug smugglers, welfare sponges, and the Aztlan separatists and leave the folks who are hard workers alone.

Based on the experiences my brother had over his two-year mission for our church, I think that the Tancredo-Buchanan crowd has grossly underestimated the ability and willingness of a lot of these "Illegals" to assimilate.

Poohbah's pointed out the logistics of fully militarizing the border - which some of the hard-liners on this issue want to do. Quite frankly, I take very strong issue with a the rhetoric used by a lot of the hard-liners on this matter.

I do not believe that our system of government can only work for a European culture, and I have SERIOUS issues with those who make that argument. I have serious issues with those who want to scale back immigration (I do think we need to cut immigration from Arab nations and Africa to a large extent, and instead focus more on Eastern Europe and Mexico), or even impose a moratorium. If either of those two policies were in effect a while back, then Sabertooth's pick to head the INS might not be in the U.S. at all, and Michelle Malkin would be worrying about Abu Sayyef. Or, as another example, Bailint Vazsonyi might have been in a gulag - if he was lucky.

I don't think that the color of one's skin matters one iota in their potential to achieve in this country. Ask Colin Powell, Linda Chavez, Michelle Malkin, Bill Gates, Ken Griffey Jr., J.C. Watts, Miguel Estrada, or Al Gonzales (the White House Counsel).

I think Bush is pushing the best proposal for all involved, and I'll back him to the hilt on it.
65 posted on 08/22/2002 8:43:04 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: hchutch
I'm in category 2. I believe those who have a job and who have committed no crimes other than entering illegally ought to be allowed to remain and tracked into either a bracero program or permanent residence that should not displace those currently going through the process.

What then, is the point of prospective immigrants even going through the application process?

Why wouldn't foreign nationals just get into the United States by hook or by crook, and take advantage of your Amnesty?

If your partial Amnesty doesn't displace applicants currently going through the process, thereby busting our legislated immigration caps, what is the effective difference between your plan and a virtually open border?




72 posted on 08/22/2002 8:59:50 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: hchutch
By the way, the notion that from 1787 to 1970 people didn't come to this nation "illegally" is just preposterous. We kept track of most who came here through the major seaports, but anyone could come in through less traveled ports, settle on land, and "become" a citizen easily.
120 posted on 08/22/2002 10:27:28 AM PDT by LS
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To: hchutch
Your apathetic attitude is why we're in the place we are. Your inability to see the whole picture shows that you really do not care whether this issue is solved.

Your opinion, frankly, is misguided, as it seeks to legitimize the breaking of U.S. sovereignty, not to mention it will only encourage more lawbreakers. Furthermore, your opinion that the U.S. should not be only a European culture shows that you're an avid multiculturalist, of which will sink America.

Just my opinions, though.

164 posted on 08/22/2002 1:14:30 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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