[4Freedom]

"Next they'll be dragging in the experiences of their sister's cat's grandmother."

I kid you not. There's a faction here on FR that will resort to any contrivance to justify Bush's open borders nonsense.

I came onto that thread late and had to read 10 posts about the opinions of some guy working in a mission in Las Vegas as if it had the weight and credibility of a scientific, national poll.

I called it the Chutch Brothers Mission Poll.

Actually, it was the same opinion 10 times. Seriously, I counted them.

Chutch is like Zogby must be wrong when they say that almost 6 out of every 10 Mexicans believe that the American Southwest belongs to Mexico and that they don't need U.S. permission to enter our country, because the U.S. stole it from Mexico.

New Zogby Poll: Mexicans Say Southwest U.S. Belongs To Them; Shouldn't Need Permission To Enter U.S.

His brother has talked to lots of illegal aliens and none of them told him that they were here to take their country back and didn't need our stinking permission to be here. Not even the winos said anything like that, I guess.

He thinks they'd be stupid enough to say that to a person that they're going to for help.

Therefore, Aztlan and Reconquista is a fringe movement and there's nothing to worry about here. There you have it. From my brother. He's the expert, because I say so. I'd trust him with my life, so should you. Nothing to see. Move along folks. That's that. Ignore those scientific polls.

And he talks like he's a big Republican Party hotshot in his state. No wonder we're in trouble.

[hchutch]

First of all, if you knew someone who had extensive experience on an issue that far outweighed your own, you'd ask to find out what you could from that experience. I did that. Or are you saying that my research is not valid because it doesn't meet your pre-conceived notions?

Furthermore, repeating the observations I have received second-hand is different that reporting opinions. If you need to look up the difference between those two words, go to http://www.dictionary.com or http://www.bartleby.com/61/ and look them up.

Furthermore, I'm not a Republican party hotshot - just someone who is pretty active in working to get conservatives elected, and who happens to disagree with you on this issue.

[Twodees]

I can assure you that every single one of these open borders amnesty advocates would imediately become raving anti-Mexican nutters if W came out and said he hates Maexicans and that they should all be deported. Well, all of them except mr.Avocado, that is. That guy posted a diatribe from the SPLC as "proof" that anyone not willing to eliminate the Southern border is a dangerous neo-nazi/KKK/militia/conspiracy theory nutjob.

VA, tell us what Morris Dees says this week about the unbridled racism of invasion opponents.