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To: Luis Gonzalez
Sir, if you and others will simply re-read my original post it might clarify things. I'm quite aware that numerous Presidents have violated this - but because it has been done before, but not make it legal today. I'm not saying to not invade, I'm saying that it must be done legally according to the Constitution.

According the the Constitution the President is the Commander-in-Chief. The congress appropriates monied and declares war. For an interesting read on this subject I'll post the following letter:

Dear William: Washington, Feb. 15. 1848

Your letter of the 29th. Jany. was received last night. Being exclusively a constitutional argument, I wish to submit some reflections upon it in the same spirit of kindness that I know actuates you. Let me first state what I understand to be your position. It is, that if it shall become necessary, to repel invasion, the President may, without violation of the Constitution, cross the line, and invade the teritory [sic] of another country; and that whether such necessity exists in any given case, the President is to be the sole judge.

Before going further, consider well whether this is, or is not your position. If it is, it is a position that neither the President himself, nor any friend of his, so far as I know, has ever taken. Their only positions are first, that the soil was ours where hostilities commenced, and second, that whether it was rightfully ours or not, Congress had annexed it, and the President, for that reason was bound to defend it, both of which are as clearly proved to be false in fact, as you can prove that your house is not mine. That soil was not ours; and Congress did not annex or attempt to annex it. But to return to your position: Allow the President to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so, whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such purpose---and you allow him to make war at pleasure. Study to see if you can fix any limit to his power in this respect, after you have given him so much as you propose. If, to-day, he should choose to say he thinks it necessary to invade Canada, to prevent the British from invading us, how could you stop him? You may say to him, ``I see no probability of the British invading us'' but he will say to you ``be silent; I see it, if you dont.''

The provision of the Constitution giving the war-making power to Congress, was dictated, as I understand it, by the following reasons. Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good



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of the people was the object. This, our Convention understood to be the most oppressive of all Kingly oppressions; and they resolved to so frame the Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing this oppression upon us. But your view destroys the whole matter, and places our President where kings have always stood. Write soon again. Yours truly, A. LINCOLN

[emphasis in original]

Abraham Lincoln, "Letter to William Herndon", The Collected Works Of Abraham Lincoln, Roy P. Basler, ed., Vol. 1, pp. 451-452 - Online here. FYI, Mr. Herndon was a Whig, Abraham Lincoln's jr. law partner.

125 posted on 08/24/2002 7:45:03 AM PDT by 4CJ
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
According to Article One, section 8 of the US Constitution, Congress is enpowered "To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof."

Congress passed the War Powers Resolution. The Resolution is Constitutional, and the President has acted in accordance to his compliance requirements under the WPR.

There's nothing being violated here.
126 posted on 08/24/2002 8:41:47 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: 4ConservativeJustices; Luis Gonzalez
Once again for those of you who still feel the President Bush must reseek authority to act(READ IT THIS TIME):

Authorization of force against terrorism Here is the joint resolution authorizing the use of force against terrorists adopted unanimously on Sept. 14 by the Senate and by a 420-1 vote in the House To authorize the use of United States armed forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.
WHEREAS, on Sept. 11, 2001, acts of treacherous violence were committed against the United States and its citizens; and
WHEREAS, such acts render it both necessary and appropriate that the United States exercise its rights to self-defense and to protect United States citizens both at home and abroad, and
WHEREAS, in light of the threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by these grave acts of violence, and
WHEREAS, such acts continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States,
WHEREAS the president has authority under the Constitution to take action to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States.
RESOLVED by the Senate and the House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
Section 1. Short Title
This joint resolution may be cited as the “Authorization for Use of Military Force”
Section 2. Authorization for Use of United States Armed Forces
(a) That the president is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on Sept. 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.
(b) War Powers Resolution Requirements
(1) Specific Statutory Authorization — Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.
(2) Applicability of Other Requirements — Nothing in this resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.
194 posted on 08/27/2002 8:08:33 PM PDT by Freemeorkillme
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