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To: Incorrigible
Dear sir,

There is NO exponential increase in autistic disorder. While there has been a rise in the incidence of autism, it is not related to MMR or any other vaccine. I've already posted repeated messages on this issue.

Most importantly, there is NO mercury in ANY of the vaccines in the US at this point. Thimerosal was removed as a preservative over the past 18 months and this is partly reponsible for the problems with vaccine supply and distribution.

The chiropractor posting these messages should be banned from this board. He is a democrat from Massachusetts and is CLEARLY attempting to interfere with the political purposes of this board.

Lastly, any review of the dozens of papers regarding vaccines and autism published in the last two years supports this opinion.

53 posted on 08/22/2002 11:01:58 AM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: bonesmccoy
There is NO exponential increase in autistic disorder. While there has been a rise in the incidence of autism,

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here.  Are you saying that there has been a rise in the incidence of autism but that it's not exponential?  The school districts sure act like the growth in Autism has been exponential.

it is not related to MMR or any other vaccine. I've already posted repeated messages on this issue.

I stated in post that agree with you and Tom on this point.  Others disagree with me.  Knowing what I know now, I can see that my son had Autistic behaviors before his MMR vaccination.  This is why I encourage parents to get their children vaccinated but to do so only somewhat later than the current schedule.

Most importantly, there is NO mercury in ANY of the vaccines in the US at this point. Thimerosal was removed as a preservative over the past 18 months and this is partly reponsible for the problems with vaccine supply and distribution.

Right.  NOW there's no mercury in any of the vaccines in the US.  As you note, that wasn't always the case.  Thimerosal was removed as a preservative as a precautionary measure in case some scientific evidence (or junk science like the breast implants) caused the lawyers to come out of the woodwork to sue Merck out of existance.

The chiropractor posting these messages should be banned from this board. He is a democrat from Massachusetts and is CLEARLY attempting to interfere with the political purposes of this board.

That's a rather unkind assessment of a fellow FReeper who's been around here longer than you.  Well, not by much.  This board is about freedom.  Government schools (and by inference government) demanding that kids be vaccinated is a worthy topic.  And before you try to put words in my mouth:

ALL KIDS SHOULD BE VACCINATED.

55 posted on 08/22/2002 11:48:14 AM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: Incorrigible; bonesmccoy
There is NO exponential increase in autistic disorder.  -- from bonesmccoy

Oral Statement of Dr. Walter Spitzer, Emeritus Professor of Epidemiology - McGill Univ., at the Burton committee hearings in April, 2001:

Speaking as an epidemiologist, there is an epidemic.  It is not refutable on the evidence that is there. I am saying it, even though the great majority—except for one or two studies—they are all prevalence studies.  A prevalence study is inexpensive and that is why one leans in that direction with the meek resources that are given for this kind of research.  You need incidence to clearly demonstrate or refute an epidemic.

And the one peer-reviewed published study that did incidence—which is a case study out of the Boston Collaborative Surveillance Unit at Boston University, based on the British data base—it is an incidence study and it shows an epidemic.  It is a seven-fold increase.

In California, you reported yourself, Mr. Chairman, that there are 700 new cases—which is incidence—in the past 3 months. Compared to the same seasonally adjusted period of 3 months 7 years ago, that is a 404 percent increase.  That is an epidemic.

In Ireland, just the day before yesterday, there is a three-fold in-crease in prevalence done in the last few months.  And in Cambridge University, a study showed a 10-fold increase in prevalence. These are numbers that are not the basis upon which you question an epidemic.  We have an epidemic of autism and I assert that, as an epidemiologist, with confidence. 

[Emphasis mine]


56 posted on 08/22/2002 11:58:38 AM PDT by Al B.
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