I Am No Longer A Conservative

Toogood Reports ^ | August 21, 2002 | Cuck Baldwin

[The Coopster]

Man, I can't believe we're still beating this dead horse.

I guess you're right. Better to have run Buchannan, so that Gore would be president right now. Who better to run this country during wartime than Al "sensitive guy" Gore?

Politics, in case you didn't notice, is about compromise - like it or not (well, now I've said something stupid, since you obviously don't like it). All or nothing many times leaves you with nothing. We weren't played for fools. We were simply smart enough to recognize who could win, and who definitely wouldn't. But comparing Bush to Stalin or Hitler? You can't possibly be that dense......

[FreedomFriend]

You do realize that your "plan" is bankrupting the country. Of course, this "free trade" is not fair trade. What makes you so confident in an utter failure of a policy?

Furthermore, why is it that protectionist policies brought about a strong America, higher buying power, and less foreign intervention? Unfortunately, you're operating on a failed system, and you're trying to justify the failure that it is. Unfortunately, we may not be able to go back to sane policies, for viewpoints like yours may prevent it. It will then be too late to do anything about it, as our country will be weakened to the point of virtually no return.

Again, facts from the past and present reveals which policy works.

[FreedomFriend]

And why is it that Bush could win and Buchanan couldn't? 100% media laced dribble. That's why. Furthermore, Bush has bloated the federal government much faster than his un-American predecessor.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

You do realize that your "plan" is bankrupting the country. Of course, this "free trade" is not fair trade. What makes you so confident in an utter failure of a policy?

My "plan" is to seek a major reduction of domestic Taxation and regulation. (a maximum of 10% of GDP seems like a fine guideline to me; why should the State take more than God?) Precisely how would this bankrupt the nation?

I repeat my challenge:

Of the two options below, pick the scenario most likely to encourage economic growth:

• Scenario 1 -- Let's raise Domestic Taxation and regulation to 90% and raise Import Tariffs to 100%. (do remember, btw, that this doubles the Cost of raw materials imported by Industry for production)
• Scenario 2 -- Let's lower Domestic Taxation and regulation to 10% and raise Import Tariffs to zero. (do remember, btw, that this eliminates the added Cost of tariffs on raw materials imported by Industry for production)

Use the brains the good Lord gave ya, this one is not that hard to think through. What's your answer??

[tinacart]

"Intelligent people should be able to see that "Free Trade" is bad for America."

True, but the "intelligent people" or rather people with eyes to see are numbered. One World Economic System, part of the four hidden dynasties in Daniel (the other three: one world religion, one world education, and one world political - now, just look around and tell me I'm crazy...) We must continue to stand up, but do you think we will prevail? At least, for now?

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Sorry, my bad; let's clean up the HTML on this...You do realize that your "plan" is bankrupting the country. Of course, this "free trade" is not fair trade. What makes you so confident in an utter failure of a policy?

My "plan" is to seek a major reduction of domestic Taxation and regulation. (a maximum of 10% of GDP seems like a fine guideline to me; why should the State take more than God?) Precisely how would this bankrupt the nation?

I repeat my challenge:

Of the two options below, pick the scenario most likely to encourage economic growth:

• Scenario 1 -- Let's raise Domestic Taxation and regulation to 90% and raise Import Tariffs to 100%. (do remember, btw, that this doubles the Cost of raw materials imported by Industry for production)
• Scenario 2 -- Let's lower Domestic Taxation and regulation to 10% and raise Import Tariffs to zero. (do remember, btw, that this eliminates the added Cost of tariffs on raw materials imported by Industry for production)

Use the brains the good Lord gave ya, this one is not that hard to think through. What's your answer??

[The Coopster]

While I agree that the media spews crap most of the time, Mr. Buchannan helped a lot of that along himself. It is the classic all-or-nothing syndrome. If you're too extreme, you'll eliminate more voters than you can bring in. And you , too are going to extremes here. Bush hasn't done any more or less than any other President to "bloat" the gov't further. Is he perfect? No one can be. But he was the best option at the time. And do you honestly believe that ANY candidate would be able to step in and wield the ax toward smaller gov't? It will take years to undo this Gordian Knot, and I have doubts that I'll see it in my lifetime.

In the meantime, I'll remain a realist.

[FreedomFriend]

You're most likely correct. It probably won't get better, but I'll go down fighting. It does appear that the New World Order One World Government is upon us, and that the breakdown of nations is occurring right now. Wide-open borders, free trade, international trading organizations, the rise of the EU, ICC & the UN, as well as tons of other stuff.

I see this stuff and I think "evil".

[Lazamataz]

For myself I agree with him I have watched conservatives on this site for many years and I can see the split is for real and is a major problem!

The split is so bad that I find it nearly impossible to post here any more.

[FreedomFriend]

And do you honestly believe that ANY candidate would be able to step in and wield the ax toward smaller gov't? It will take years to undo this Gordian Knot, and I have doubts that I'll see it in my lifetime.

Yes, I could do it.

[DAnconia55]

Inevitable and steady deterioration of a system or society.

Full speed ahead, then...
Here's to gumming up the works :)

[The Coopster]

Well - Godspeed, Lancelot! :-)

I really hope you can........

[Valin]

The good Mr. Baldwin must have been short of ideas for a column.

"I support the rightward most VIABLE candidate."
William F Buckley jr

[Valin]

Yes, I could do it.

Pray enlighten us poor benighted souls.

[Valin]

Hey better watch it you're making too much sense. And we can't have anything like that.

[The Coopster]

...benighted...

Great word!

[Willie Green]

Chuck nails it.

The only thing missing is calling 'em a bunch of "Republicrats".

(It's good seeing ya, Harry!)

[Valin]

I are gots a more gooder edumakshun.

[Dec31,1999]

Furthermore, why is it that protectionist policies brought about a strong America, higher buying power, and less foreign intervention?

It might be because after WWII there was virtually no competition, as the economies of western Europe were in ruins, and there was no formidable competition in Asia to begin with.

[JPJones]

Instead, call me a constitutionalist.

I'm with you, but call me a Freeper.