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VAN DAM MURDER VERDICT [VERDICT IN: GUILTY!]
ABC radio

Posted on 08/21/2002 10:03:52 AM PDT by wallcrawlr

I just heard this at noon.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: horndog; kidnapping; molestation; vandam; westerfield; westerfieldrailroad
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To: Congressman Billybob
They used both tracking dogs and cadaver dogs.
561 posted on 08/21/2002 12:58:26 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: Lilly
Sorry - I thought you knew specifics that the rest of us do not.
562 posted on 08/21/2002 12:59:39 PM PDT by mommya
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To: PrairieDawg
Has anyone brought up this about the girls diary?

If this is true then the father is my suspect....

563 posted on 08/21/2002 1:00:09 PM PDT by lotus
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To: Jaded
If you've watched this trial closely and you're not guillible, you know he's guilty. You don't believe defense-paid experts about bug-eating corpses and such silliness.
564 posted on 08/21/2002 1:00:26 PM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Had the child pornography come from spam e-mail, etc., as you suggested, it would have been presented as evidence by the defense. There is a way to show how the pornography was loaded and it wasn't loaded onto his computer innocently through any of the methods you suggested. Go read the trial transcripts pertaining to this matter and you will see that your suggestion is wishful thinking on your part.
565 posted on 08/21/2002 1:03:14 PM PDT by Peach
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To: FreeTheHostages
You mean the bug expert that was originally hired by the prosecution (Faulkner), but whose testimony wasn't used when his findings didn't match Dusek's case?

That expert?
566 posted on 08/21/2002 1:03:22 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: alisasny
Well thank you for your very nice post! And thank you for your hard work in NY, especially against the beast! I've had to put my own activist activities on hold for a variety of reasons. Can't wait to get back into the "swing" of things again.

I have stuck to my guns in this case for numerous reasons. I have great empathy and sympathy for parents, [no matter how stupid the parents may be]...who have missing children or who child was found deceased.(I hate how ignorant the parents were about their extra curricular activities--but as I said a hundred times, predators will find a weakness and exploit it. DW found one..) Without going into details, I will say that I have filed a missing persons report before. I know the fear and horror of having a missing child. I would't wish it on my worst enemy.


I agree with you when you said "All families in this case are ruined"....and you know what? I believe the child porn and rape scenes are the nails in his coffin. I really do. If Feldman could have shown a witness who played with or saw danielle in the MH and if he didnt' have the child porn....it would have been more than likely acquittal..

Again thank you for your post..
567 posted on 08/21/2002 1:04:31 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: PrairieDawg
Per testimony: Westerfield's motorhome was unlocked often. You think the neighborhood kids wouldn't check it out?

Testimony was that the motorhome was in storage the previous month. Was NOT in the neighborhood for weeks. They not only found her blood, handprint, fiber but the hair they found was of the same length of DVD hair which had been cut a week before

They found 1 (ONE) fingerprint near a cabinet

Wrong again. They found a hand print upside down by the headboard. Also they found fibers from that headboard imbedded in the top of her skull. Now what do you think was going on. Bury your head in this one!

568 posted on 08/21/2002 1:04:56 PM PDT by checkessential
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To: Peach
It WAS a lot of screen imprints and e-mails and deleted items. I suggest you go back and re-read the testimony.

A good portion of it came from his son's hotmail account...from his son's computer.
569 posted on 08/21/2002 1:05:15 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: lotus
Because it's not true. Mr. Peirce is a fraud, his claims are bogus.
570 posted on 08/21/2002 1:05:33 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Jaded
So, what do you think the jury will say about the bugs?
571 posted on 08/21/2002 1:06:06 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
You're just plain out wrong. I watched the son's testimony regarding this matter.
572 posted on 08/21/2002 1:06:36 PM PDT by Peach
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To: checkessential
Also they found fibers from that headboard imbedded in the top of her skull.

Wrongo.

573 posted on 08/21/2002 1:07:28 PM PDT by mommya
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To: checkessential
"Testimony was that the motorhome was in storage the previous month. Was NOT in the neighborhood for weeks. They not only found her blood, handprint, fiber but the hair they found was of the same length of DVD hair which had been cut a week before."

Irrelevant...since they never proved WHEN Danielle was in the motorhome.

"Also they found fibers from that headboard imbedded in the top of her skull."

What!?!? I would LOVE to see your source on that little tid-bit.
574 posted on 08/21/2002 1:07:55 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: crystalk
- She and her brothers played in his living
room while he talked with Brenda, Danielle's mother!

Wait until the full details of THAT relationship come out on appeal. ----

New facts usually cannot be presented in an appeal. If he failed to introduce evidence at trial, he will not be allowed to introduce it on appeal.
575 posted on 08/21/2002 1:08:38 PM PDT by brownie
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To: rstevens
The careful followers of the trial had more info than the jury, and access to video replays and written transcipts -- save in one area -- the overwhelmingly prejudicial porn charges. No experts in psychology or criminal habits testified as to how porn is linked to murder. The porn was used to emotionally charge the jury, against the already massive barrage of media spin against Westerfield.

The porn charges -- especially sans experts to testify as to weight in motive -- should have been a seperate proceeding, and not in the murder trial.

576 posted on 08/21/2002 1:09:05 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Peach
But apparently you didn't watch the Computer expert's testimony. The man that testified what the files were, where they came from, and when they were last accessed.
577 posted on 08/21/2002 1:09:10 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
You mean the bug expert that was originally hired by the prosecution (Faulkner), but whose testimony wasn't used when his findings didn't match Dusek's case?

NONONONONONO! He mean's Goff the innumerate bug expert from Hawaii who (after a quick math refresher) also came to the conclusion that Westerfield couldn't have disposed of the body.

578 posted on 08/21/2002 1:11:07 PM PDT by PrairieDawg
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To: PrairieDawg
And by the way, Nancy Grace is the Court TV wench that has been calling for Westerfield's head since the beginning of the trial.

Based on the verdict, I guess she was right all along???

579 posted on 08/21/2002 1:11:45 PM PDT by been_lurking
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To: checkessential
The left ring and left middle finger tip prints were found on the side moulding of the side cabinet of the MH bed...the horizontal cabinet over the entire length of the bed was not even dusted until 2 months later....none of Danielle's prints were found there.

There was no hair from Danielle found on the fabric headboard or any where else in the MH besides the 1 hair in sink drain trap, along with other blonde hair, not Danielle's.

The MH was in the neighborhood unlocked from 11/2000 until 11/2001.

Danielle's body and hair had multicolored fibers all over it that were not found in DW's environment anywhere...the red fibers found in her fingernails was also not found anywhere in DWs environment.

The 7cm coarse dark hair found under her body was never run thru the offender's database after DW was excluded.

580 posted on 08/21/2002 1:11:58 PM PDT by Rheo
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