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VAN DAM MURDER VERDICT [VERDICT IN: GUILTY!]
ABC radio

Posted on 08/21/2002 10:03:52 AM PDT by wallcrawlr

I just heard this at noon.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: horndog; kidnapping; molestation; vandam; westerfield; westerfieldrailroad
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To: general_re
His wife refused to cooperate if the death penalty was involved. I have no idea what he got.
41 posted on 08/21/2002 10:24:30 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Freakazoid
Yeah, but I'm lovable anyway, and my predictions almost always come out right.
42 posted on 08/21/2002 10:25:18 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: crystalk
How do you know he is a "basically good man?"
43 posted on 08/21/2002 10:25:24 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: marajade
I know of the evidence and it isn't enough IMHO. They never placed him with her. A few hairs and gulps aren't enough. His failure to testify was his biggest mistake.
44 posted on 08/21/2002 10:25:46 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: McLynnan
You think he's not guilty? I haven't followed the details of the trial, but thought there was overwhelming forensic evidence. What do you see that I missed?

LOL! You missed everything!

45 posted on 08/21/2002 10:26:16 AM PDT by Henrietta
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To: McLynnan
You think he's not guilty? I haven't followed the details of the trial, but thought there was overwhelming forensic evidence. What do you see that I missed?

LOL! You missed everything!

46 posted on 08/21/2002 10:26:22 AM PDT by Henrietta
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To: wallcrawlr

BREAKING NEWS....

BREAKING SMOKEY NEWS: WESTERFIELD VERDICT REACHED..Announcment at 11:00 A.M.

47 posted on 08/21/2002 10:26:41 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Freakazoid
Make sure you spell it right.
48 posted on 08/21/2002 10:26:51 AM PDT by KnutCase
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To: AppyPappy
They had blood DNA evidence... That isn't enough?
49 posted on 08/21/2002 10:26:54 AM PDT by marajade
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To: AppyPappy
" The prosecution must prove beyond a shadow of a doubt."

If you served on a murder one jury, you should know it's reasonable doubt, not beyond a shadow of a doubt. Sounds like like an OJ jury.

50 posted on 08/21/2002 10:27:01 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie
you should know it's reasonable doubt

Whatever.

51 posted on 08/21/2002 10:27:42 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
His failure to testify was his biggest mistake

I agree. The biggest mistake of his life if he is not guilty.

52 posted on 08/21/2002 10:27:50 AM PDT by cynicalman
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To: marajade
You definitely shouldn't spout that LIE to people who have followed this case. THERE WAS NO BLOOD.
53 posted on 08/21/2002 10:28:08 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: AppyPappy
I hope you're right. I'm still not convinced of Westerfield's innocence, but the prosecution did not prove its case. When I sat on a jury in a criminal trial, we all believed that the verdict could have gone either way. 50/50. We didn't know. But two things convinced us to render a "not guilty" verdict. We had reasonable doubt and the morals of the mother in the case led us to believe that she could be lying. The man was no champ, but the presumption of innocence was on his side.
54 posted on 08/21/2002 10:28:45 AM PDT by twigs
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To: AppyPappy
The prosecution must prove beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Really? When did this change?? I thought it was beyond a REASONABLE doubt.

55 posted on 08/21/2002 10:28:46 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness
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To: ican'tbelieveit
I had read (LA Times) and heard (radio) that there was blood in the RV and blood on his jacket that was a DNA match w/ Danielle. Is that incorrect information?
56 posted on 08/21/2002 10:29:40 AM PDT by luckodeirish
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To: marajade
They never placed him with the blood. It's not like they found semen in her which would prove intercourse. If they had found HIS DNA on her, that would be the match they need.
57 posted on 08/21/2002 10:29:58 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
Gotcha - she agreed to cooperate if the prosecutor ditched the idea of the death penalty. Just hypothetically speaking though, if they had asked, would you have felt comfortable sentencing him to death?

I'm truly not trying to put you on the spot - I'm just curious about what that experience is like. We all talk about capital punishment basically in the abstract, and even if you didn't actually have to face that decision, I've never known anyone who had the potential for it like you did...

58 posted on 08/21/2002 10:29:59 AM PDT by general_re
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To: marajade
So what? It shows she was there at SOME POINT. The dogs did not hit on the blood. IF it was fresh, they would have.
59 posted on 08/21/2002 10:30:09 AM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: ican'tbelieveit
There wasn't any blood? I thought they DNA tested the blood recovered on his jacket?

Hair evidence is still considered just as valid as blood evidence in relation to DNA.
60 posted on 08/21/2002 10:30:10 AM PDT by marajade
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