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VAN DAM MURDER VERDICT [VERDICT IN: GUILTY!]
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Posted on 08/21/2002 10:03:52 AM PDT by wallcrawlr

I just heard this at noon.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: horndog; kidnapping; molestation; vandam; westerfield; westerfieldrailroad
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To: agarrett
What police misconduct? What phone call? Was there misconduct involved in the collection of the hair, blood, or fingerprint evidence?
361 posted on 08/21/2002 11:49:45 AM PDT by marajade
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To: GretchenEE
The jury will decide whether he gets the death penalty or life in prison without parole.
362 posted on 08/21/2002 11:49:57 AM PDT by Slip18
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To: crystalk; All
I predict DW will take the stand on appeal.

People, people, why are you wasting your breath contesting Crystalk's claims that Westerfield is innocent. of course he's guilting, but the fact that you can't persuade Crystalk doesn't mean that it's a majority sentiment on this thread. Look at why this person posted above: they think that the bandit gets to testify on appeal! hee hee -- and someone already patiently explained that appeals aren't for new evidence to this person too.

I implore my fellow Freepers to give up trying to get human sponge-brains to change their mind. It's not worth it. Fear not: reread these posts, and you'll see there are really only 3 or 4 idiots parading around talking about his innocence. One of whom has alreayd admitted to being a criminal defense lawyer (sigh, not that there's anything wrong with that per se, but I never did meet a conservative criminal defense lawyer so i'm slightly skeptical what they're doing here).
363 posted on 08/21/2002 11:50:04 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: marajade
Listen, they had blood, hair, and fingerprints... That's all I need to know...

You don't burn up many calories thinking, do you?

364 posted on 08/21/2002 11:50:45 AM PDT by Steve0113
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To: bvw
I don't care how much evidence you claim you had that the jury didn't... That isn't how the jury system works in this country... If you don't like it, move...
365 posted on 08/21/2002 11:50:45 AM PDT by marajade
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To: crystalk
>>and my predictions almost always come out right.<<

You mean like the hikers in Virginia. No, actually they don't. And yes, you are a nut case.

Heads up, there's some black heliocopters off to the east of your house and it looks like they have binoculars. Thought you'd want to know they were stalking you Crystalker.

366 posted on 08/21/2002 11:50:49 AM PDT by jumpstartme
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To: arm958
I'm new to this thread, but you people who think Westerfield is innocent are serious aren't you? Wierd.

Whatever you do, don't go to the Masillon threads. They're even weirder.

367 posted on 08/21/2002 11:50:52 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: P-Marlowe
There was a rumor of lie detector test, but it doesn't matter at this point.

We gots to see what happens during appeal..it's not over yet..
368 posted on 08/21/2002 11:50:58 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Congressman Billybob
OTOH, had he been found innocent, no doubt he'd be the first guest on Clinton's new TV show...
369 posted on 08/21/2002 11:50:59 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: marajade
I have my nephew's DNA (blood) on my living room carpet from when he once picked his nose too deeply (he's 3).

If (God forbid) he goes missing, am I guilty of kidnapping and murdering him?
370 posted on 08/21/2002 11:51:26 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
WHOA!No way that the "evidence" we all heard/saw presented pointed to a guilty verdict in all three charges...today's new fReepers have NOt followed all of the testimony as we have AND, even so, compare this crap to OJ's evidence..DW=one blob of blood, a few hairs, some fiber..OJ=vat of his blood, hair in cap, glove, etc on his property.etc etc..oh yes, the LAPD 'framed" OJ. What BS.

AND NOW FOR THE REEEALLY GOOD PART-THE VD CAN SUE HIM CIVILLY FOR THIS CRIME.UNF***BELIEVABLE.

To all you people eager togive him the 'needle'You better ALWAYS have a rolled up hose, never drink in an adult bar,go away for a weekend trip, andoh yes, NO ONE ON FR EVER looks at porn//puhleeze.

Lizzie


371 posted on 08/21/2002 11:52:17 AM PDT by bothsidesnow
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To: Steve0113
What does that mean? If the prosecution can't win with evidence like that, they shouldn't be presenting cases to juries on behalf of the state.
372 posted on 08/21/2002 11:52:30 AM PDT by marajade
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
A future miner in your family?
373 posted on 08/21/2002 11:52:55 AM PDT by Delbert
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To: bvw
consensus of folks -- Freepers -- have reached a conclusion that is at odds with the Jury's

How's the weather on your planet? Count again. Freepers overwhelmingly think he's guilty.

Oh, and your reference to the porn charge as "prejudicial" is completely silly: the law doesn't prohibit evidence that's damming, just evidence that's unfairly damming. he was looking at porn and it does provide a motive for the other charges: it was surely prejudicial, but appropriately so. If prosecutors couldn't bring forth any evidence that was prejudicial to a defendant at criminal trial, they'd all just be sitting around drinking tea talking about the weather at criminal trials. Dumbest thing I've read this week, and that includes a lot of other stuff in this post.
374 posted on 08/21/2002 11:53:25 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: crystalk
"I predict DW will take the stand on appeal"

I'm sure you've already read this from someone else by now.
DW cannot take the stand during the appellate process. the purpose of the appellate process is to prove the judge errored during the trial, or mistakes were made.

Appellate courts will judge based upon transcripts..and procedures taken by the judge.
375 posted on 08/21/2002 11:54:25 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Did Westerfield get on the stand to provide evidence to those facts if they were true? No, he didn't. Why not?
376 posted on 08/21/2002 11:54:30 AM PDT by marajade
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To: cherry
" daddy please forgive me...daddy please love me"

I have had problem with this myself. My child is almost 7 and would never write such a thing. The love between her and her Dad is clear to me. Of course she gets disciplined and such but the young mind goes on its own way right after such discipline.

My child would not write such a thing, she would tell him that to his face.

ANd frankly in her little journal she would make her Dad out to be a hero as many children of this age do.

That writing that Danielle wrote is very telling...

377 posted on 08/21/2002 11:54:32 AM PDT by alisasny
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To: marajade
Your ignorance is astounding.
378 posted on 08/21/2002 11:54:34 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

BREAKING NEWS.....

DUH-KNEES KEMAL READY TO RETURN TO SAN DIEGO....

VICTORIOUS IN HER NEW FOUND FAME....

NEW TALK SHOW ON COURT TV PLANNED....

HOSTED BY NANCY GRACE CALLED:

HUMP, HIDE AND SEEK


379 posted on 08/21/2002 11:55:05 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Peach
I've never seen such ignorance in FR before.

Well, there was that Elian case ...

380 posted on 08/21/2002 11:55:13 AM PDT by GretchenEE
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