[Conservative til I die]

a women's gender is what makes her unsuitable

And that's been my point. The silliness of it is staggering. That's like restricting half the American workforce to never being allowed to go above first line supervisor because of their sex, thereby denying the economy the benefit of their high-level input and leadership qualities

No, it's not, because again, you're talking about apples and oranges. You say, "That's like ...the American workforce," and that's your problem. This isn't America, this isn't Congress, and it isn't the American workforce. It's a Church. The Catholic Church.

I'm not gonna bother with the Mormon part of the post because I'm not going to dignify an argument about a totally different religion with total different rules on how they write, change, and propogate their teachings, much less which ones are fallible and infallible. All I'll say is if the Mormons want to do that, bully for them. It has absolutely sub-zero to do with Catholicism. What next, using a change in Scientology's rules as a means of really applying the pressure on the Cahtolics?

[gcruse]

Well, that's about the end of the road, I think. As you say, it's take it or leave it. I think it's wrong for the reasons specified and if women are willing to continue subjugating themselves it's their business to do so. But you won't catch me and mine in there. Thanks for the discussion, mate.