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Pretending immigration isn't an issue
Townhall.com ^ | August 20, 2002 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 08/20/2002 12:25:19 PM PDT by gubamyster

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To: Jennikins
My apology if it's Miss Jennikins....
441 posted on 08/21/2002 8:47:14 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Sabertooth
As difficult as it will be, it will take far less energy to bend the GOP to our will than would be spent wasting time on third party efforts.

I hope that you are right, I fear that you are most likely wrong.
If Reagan couldn't change the direction of the GOP, who can?

442 posted on 08/21/2002 8:54:59 PM PDT by rightofrush
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To: rdb3
Also, it's telling what the black folks in Compton are saying about the illegals problem. You know, that would be a good issue to confront Maxine Waters and the other inner-city Los Angeles Congressmen with in the next election.

It's really wild, blacks throughout southern L.A. County are being sold out be Leftist, hate-whitey black pols and "community activists," who won't say a word about the Illegals.




443 posted on 08/21/2002 9:05:13 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
That's a mouthful. I just wanted to share. Cheers.
444 posted on 08/21/2002 9:06:17 PM PDT by Torie
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To: dougherty; gubamyster
The shyness of the Republican Party and the Bush administration about immigration....

It's not shyness, it's cowardice.

You're both wrong. It's on purpose.

445 posted on 08/21/2002 9:08:28 PM PDT by rightofrush
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To: Amerigomag; nunya bidness; rightofrush; Carry_Okie
Thanks for your kind words on Prop #187, folks.



446 posted on 08/21/2002 9:08:49 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Torie
Back atcha.


Hey, you got post 444!

447 posted on 08/21/2002 9:12:26 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Add me to the list...great post.
448 posted on 08/21/2002 9:23:17 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: rightofrush
Bump that.....

You're both wrong. It's on purpose.

449 posted on 08/21/2002 9:28:23 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: PRND21
Add me to the list...great post.

Thank you, sir... you're a gentleman.

BTW, I'm compiling another list over here




450 posted on 08/21/2002 9:37:00 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Joe Hadenuf
while our so-called leaders stand in stone silence.....

Right you are my friend. I e mailed on 3 different occasions in the last 5 months to the two leading candidates for the Republican nomination to Max Cleland's senate seat here in Georgia, Saxby Chambliss and Bob Irvin, asking them their positions on illigal immigration and affirmative action. I never recieved an answer from either one's campaign. I did recieve numerous e mails from both begging me to donate money to their campaigns.

I voted yesterday, but only in a non partisan race for the local superior court judge; and I won't be voting for Saxby Chambliss in November either. Max Cleland votes with Boxer and Feinstien about 95% of the time, but I'll be a no show for that one.

I've seen posts saying that all Pub candidates have been ordered by the party elites to not even talk about immigration on the campaign trail. I wouldn't doubt it either.

451 posted on 08/21/2002 9:42:22 PM PDT by GaConfed
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To: Sabertooth
Thank you Saber for both posts!!!
452 posted on 08/21/2002 9:44:13 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: Snow Bunny
Thank you Saber for both posts!!!

Thank you, Bunny... glad you enjoyed them.

Sorry I've been busy lately, I'll try and get over to the Canteen soon.




453 posted on 08/21/2002 9:57:25 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: MissAmericanPie
I am done with voting in traitors to the Constitution, who think they are President of the world elected to look after the best interest of the entire Earth's population at the expense of American citizens, if that means it all goes to hades in a hand basket faster, so be it.

Sad isn't it? Our presidents today seem preoccupied with the welfare of every one on the planet EXCEPT American Citizens. The arrogant, detached, self-absorbed ruling class in the Beltway will have to be removed from power before any constructive changes can be made on immigration reform. That much is clear to me.

454 posted on 08/21/2002 10:04:48 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: GaConfed
GaConfed, I checked both Chambliss and Irvin's websites. Chambliss states that illegal immigration needs to be stopped, and the borders better secured. Bob Irvin, the better candidate, who lost of course, was against illegal immigration and for more secure borders. I talked to his campaign staff.

You've got to vote to get Cleland out of there. Barnes needs to be thrown out as well. Both of those guys are open-borders, insanely liberal democrats. At least Chambliss and Perdue are more conservative, especially the latter, and Chambliss has indicated his intention in that regard.

Cleland was the guy who, just a few years ago, was up in a Dalton city elementary school advocating bringing Mexican teachers into the Dalton city schools to teach the children in Spanish.

Roy Barnes is most likely going to push for drivers licenses for illegal aliens. Furthermore, he is advoating bigger government. On the other hand, Perdue is pushing for lower taxes, cuts in the government, and is for sane districting as well as many other conservative ideas. Don't sit home.

455 posted on 08/21/2002 10:06:01 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: WRhine
I say the states should take back their power, rights, and resources from D.C. and leave D.C. to weave baskets while in the tender care of men in white coats.

D.C. is crackers, barking mad, it's broken and cannot be mended. The best thing for it really is to be marginalized and made inconsequential.

456 posted on 08/21/2002 10:47:07 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: FreedomFriend
I admit that I haven't read Chambliss' or Irvin's web sites in several months. The last time I was on them they both only talked about "cutting taxes," blah, blah, "holding down spending," blah blah, you know that vague stuff that all establishment Pubs talk about. Have you ever seen Saxby's voting record on immigration bills? Oh, he's voted the right way on the slam dunk ones, but each and every time a bill comes up that adversely effects his big business buddies' ability to hire illigal aliens he has voted their way every time. And he is Jorge Bush's handpicked challenger to Commie Maxie. Also, the last time I checked, he was not on Tancredo's immigration reform committee. Charlie Norwood is. Nathan Deal is. Barr is or was. Why not Saxby? Norwood would have been the perfect candidate imo. He would eat Max Cleland's lunch. But he wouldn't kiss El Presidente's ring either.
457 posted on 08/21/2002 10:48:55 PM PDT by GaConfed
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To: Sabertooth
Ross Perot squashed the third party option single handedly for many years.............unless someone really compelling comes on the scene. It could happen, but probably won't.

I almost voted for the weasel.

458 posted on 08/21/2002 11:07:37 PM PDT by doglot
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To: FreedomFriend
If you were given 1/2 a brain, it would be useless and you'd still have trouble comprehending much of anything. I am not now, nor have I ever been ( let alone being the " seventh member of the " Open Borders Brigade " ; whatever that means ) in favor of " open borders ". Your delusional lies are no refutation of anything I have ever stated, and your ludicrous sniping is not only pathetic, but patently ridiculous.

Do, please get help ; there ARE free clinics, dear. :-)

459 posted on 08/21/2002 11:11:17 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: WRhine; rightofrush; doglot
I've tried explaining this before, and clearly haven't done a good job. Political science is a rather dismal one. Unlike the case of real sciences, there aren't a lot of good laws and rules.

But one thing that you can count on is that in democracies, Electoral Systems determine Party Systems. That is, whether a nation has a one, two, or multi-party system will be determined not by media conspiracies, but by the laws and regulations which govern elections.

This is a universal law of political science. You will find no exceptions. I'll try and find a good article to post on Free Republic that will explain in more detail than I am here, but I'm telling you the truth... ask any political scientist.

Really, thinking that a third party will arise in America without significant and impossibe Constitutional Amendments is like thinking that a man can fly unaided if only he flaps hard enough, or that human beings can concieve children trisexually.

Perot wasn't a third party, he was a third candidate fluke, just like George Wallace but less successful. Once the candidacies of '68 and '92 were over, the American Independent and Reform Parties sank into their inevitable oblivions, never to achieve what they did at the height of their flukedoms.



460 posted on 08/21/2002 11:26:02 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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