Lesbian mother and teens reach agreement over lifestyle (!Update to earlier story!)

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[chance33_98]

Lesbian mother and teens reach agreement over lifestyle

Kimla Green says she's willing to put aside her homosexuality in order to have her two girls come home. By Chris Adams ABC13 Eyewitness News (8/19/02) — It's a very private family drama that is now being played out in a very public way in court, with daughters against their mother.

This is a family torn apart by conflicts over homosexuality, the role of religion and the struggle to balance some very difficult facts of life.

Kimla Green walked into a family law courtroom Monday with one simple goal.

"I just want my kids back home right now," said teen girls' mother, Kimla Green.

Green acknowledges that she is sexually attracted to women and that she has brought women to the home she once shared with her two daughters, ages 16 and 17.

The family was before a judge Monday because the two teens asked the court to declare them independent because they object to their mother's gay lifestyle.

For now the girls are with their aunt. Their mother says it didn't have to come to this.

But the girl's attorney, John Breeze said, "Well, obviously there's always two sides to every story."

A Harris County judge transferred to the case Fort Bend County. But in the interim, the two sides appear to have struck a deal.

"We're hoping to have the court read our agreement or hear our agreement and say that it is in the best interest of the children and that will hopefully be the judgment," said the mother's attorney, Lee Jeronimo.

Green says the two girls have been unduly influenced and interfered with by the church they've been attending.

The new deal makes both Green and her daughters give up something.

"Well, my agreement is not to show any type of homosexual lifestyle in front of my kids or to do anything that makes them feel uncomfortable concerning the gay lifestyle. I agree to that as long as they agree not attend the Body of Christ Ministry because of all the brainwashing going on," said Green.

The agreement would reunite the family. It still needs to be approved by a Fort Bend County judge. Everyone's expected back in court there later this month.

The Body of Christ Ministry declined to comment about the case.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Thank you both for some great posts on this thread, it's difficult to find level-headed civility on "homo bashing" threads in FR.

As you can see, I've already been labeled a Liberal because I believe in His love for us, and in His promise of forgiveness.

Fine, let that stand. In the face of the hate-mongering, and fear-mongering, that the "cut-and-paste-King-James" crowd calls "righteous", I will believe in His promise. And I will love the sinner, and help him find his way.

I am not one to judge, I am unworthy, then again, they are as well.

Sometimes I believe that there's almost an air of relief in these threads, from people who, by pointing at the sins of others, seek to hide their own.

Intolerance and hatred are sins as well.

Thanks again;

Luis

[Born in a Rage]

But, it wasn't the teenage girls who were doing the sinning, it was their mother. Threatening them with damnation to HELL for showing love or compassion or simple parental respect for their mother was not the place of the church. She evidently raised them okay, didn't she.

[Terriergal]

Yep, God is not a tame lion. But you also miss the climax which the whole of scripture points to. We deserve death for every disobedient act (not just the seven deadly sins). But God also makes it plain that he will bear the burden of sin and wash it away so that we don't have to suffer the punishment as it is laid out. However we can only receive this gift if we are repentant in our hearts. Someone who is bargaining like the woman in this story is not repentant and throwing herself on God's mercy, she's manipulating.

What if the girls did not agree to not go to the church again? (I think they should have called her bluff personally.)

[Luis Gonzalez]

I posted John 3:16, you post some '70's psychobabble crap, and want me to defend the Word vs. that?

[Terriergal]

Threatening them with damnation to HELL

Did he threaten the *girls* or their mother? I must have missed the post where it said he threatened the girls.

[GraniteStateConservative]

You bet.

[Sloth]

I am not one to judge, I am unworthy, then again, they are as well.

Feel that way if you want; however, it's a completely anti-biblical position.

[Terriergal]

And this is as far as our discussion of what YOU believe in, and what I believe in will go.

Have a nice day.

Sangamon, don'tcha just love when people run and hide like that?

[GraniteStateConservative]

I don't disagree with the thrust of your message that none of us are worthy to join Him. I also wasn't commenting with my post on this exact situation. I can't judge her heart. I don't know what her relationship is with God. I pray that she seeks His guidance in her life.

[Born in a Rage]

I didn't get that from this article but rather comments that other FReepers have made regarding other articles about this case...this is the only article that I've read about it...

Example:

To: RonF

while others are "cast out the sinner" types. If this denomination is teaching these kids to hate their mom and harass her, etc., then that would be somewhat different than if they were in a more mainline church.

That is the case. She was in church and the pastor announced from the pulpit that she was hell-bound.

7 posted on 8/20/02 11:00 AM Pacific by GraniteStateConservative

etc, etc

[Luis Gonzalez]

I will feel whatever way I wish to feel, with or without your approval.

Please post the passage on the Bible where it details how those of us here will be the ones to judge who goes to Hell, and who goes elsewhere.

[Terriergal]

I find it interesting that if you do a word study on "judge" how many times it is given to mankind to make judgements...

[Born in a Rage]

Also see:

The original post.

B&P, I don't know why you think I'd make something like that up.

Olguin said the girls discussed how their mother was pointed out during a church service and told that she would go to hell because of her lifestyle.

"The girls were afraid they would go to hell, too, if they lived in that home," she said.

20 posted on 8/20/02 11:52 AM Pacific by GraniteStateConservative

[Luis Gonzalez]

Run and hide?

ROTFLMAO!!!

Who's runnig and hiding, oh female canine?

[ijcr]

Not gonna do it! This is the path to damnation, it is the ant trail for broken and forlorn souls.Tragically preached more and more in many churches.

Along with acceptance must come the command "Go out and sin no more."

[Born in a Rage]

Gotta go Terriergal
xxxkissesxxx

love,
Lynn (wink, wink)

[Terriergal]

Ok. I can agree there.

[Terriergal]

I got that post, but since there are two daughters (from the story) and the poster used "she" I assumed it meant she had been in church with her daughters and it was "she" who had somehow been condemned from the pulpit.

[Sloth]

I Corinthians 5 seems applicable here. 6:9-10 seems awfully judgmental, too.

[shaggy eel]

Don't we have a little thing in this country called the First Amendment which protects Freedom of Religion? Nice to see our courts hard at work, violating peoples' rights to exercise that freedom.

,,, I think this is really the crux of it all. So many here professing to know the mind of God, when the issue is all about two daughters keeping quiet about their beliefs. They'll be living in a house, not a home with their tounge in groove "mum". I'd put my money on the aunt taking care of them and letting them continue at the church they've chosen to attend. Wouldn't that be the liberal way to deal with it - tolerance? That way the daughters get what they want and their mum gets to enter into a series of meaningful relationships as she chooses. The deal they've worked out is simply co-leveraged extortion to keep it out of Court. Once they're old enough to stand on their own, mum won't be part of the equation anyway.