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Is Donahue Soon to be Goneahue?
NewsMax.com ^ | 8/20/02 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 08/19/2002 9:15:00 PM PDT by kattracks

With his ratings in a crash dive, critics are speculating on how long it will take the top men at MSNBC to wave bye bye to their widely ballyhooed retread, Phil Donahue.

According to the New York Times, Donahue's show has lost 40 percent of his viewers in the mere four weeks since the cable network hauled the aging ultra-liberal out of retirement and promoted his comeback with a massive publicity campaign one MSNBC executive told the Times was "the most promotion the channel has ever devoted to any program."

Nagging MSNBC is the embarrassing fact that CNN's Connie Chung's ratings put her in second place in the 8:00 EDT time spot far behind Fox's Bill O'Reilly but now about an average 300,000 viewers ahead of Donahue.

For MSNBC, which pinned their hopes on Donahue to energize their new nightly 8:00 P.M. to 11:00 P.M. lineup featuring Jerry Nachman and Ashley Banfield, this is a disaster.

Donahue's dismal statistics tell the mournful story. According to the Times, in his opening week Donahue had a daily average of about 660,000 viewers, but in the next three weeks that figure faded away. In week two, he dropped to an average of 579,000 viewers, in week three he dropped to 439,000 and in week four he was down to a pitiful average 393,000.

Pursing their lips to whistle in the graveyard, MSNBC executives deny that the onetime liberal idol faces a speedy return to retirement. While denying that his network harbors thoughts of dumping Donahue, Neal Shapiro, the president of NBC News, told Carter that Donahue will start to take advantage of more news developments this fall and everything will be just dandy.

Obviously, there are no news developments like the possibility of an attack on Iraq taking place now. New developments appear to be taking a summer vacation but they'll be back in the fall, just in time to rescue Phil Donahue.

"We'll have an election to cover and a war in Iraq," Mr. Sorenson told the Times. "The channel is counting on Mr. Donahue to handle that kind of subject matter better than Ms. Chung. "Connie has never played in this format," Mr. Shapiro said, adding that he's also pinning his hopes on playing the celebrities-on-parade strategy to resurrect the dying Donahue show.

"He's going to have Oprah on and Harrison Ford and George Clooney," Mr. Sorenson told the Times. "I don't honestly expect to have an answer on this until November."

Wow. The return of news developments and Oprah.

Ominously for Donahue, Shapiro acknowledged that the fall may be the make-or-break time for MSNBC. "We have to keep these shows moving forward," he told Carter, adding that future investment and promotion budgets for the channel may be riding on it.

The whole thing is just another example of the inability of MSNBC executives to read public attitudes that are increasingly conservative, parading out shopworn liberals like Donahue in the hope that he'll somehow be able to compete with the likes of Bill O'Reilly when he can't even compete with Connie Chung.

Sending him home to resume his retirement would be an act of mercy.



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To: kattracks
Wonder if this is the opportunity Bill Clinton is looking for to prove his tv marketability?
41 posted on 08/19/2002 10:33:53 PM PDT by MHT
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To: wirestripper
"And if it is, how do we welcome our new [black] members?"

We welcome them by pushing school vouchers & anything else that will help get their children out of the cesspool of Public Education.
42 posted on 08/19/2002 10:35:36 PM PDT by Fenris3
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To: MHT
You are correct! Hispanics (that have been assimilated) are supporting GWB for the most part.(except those who want a new Mexico in the south west. The liberal media won't cover this because it hurts their cause.
43 posted on 08/19/2002 10:37:52 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: MHT
Wonder if this is the opportunity Bill Clinton is looking for to prove his tv marketability?

I'm sure MSNBC execs looked into that a long time ago, Bill is probably holding out for 2 million an episode.

44 posted on 08/19/2002 10:41:37 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Fenris3
We welcome them by pushing school vouchers & anything else that will help get their children out of the cesspool of Public Education.

I agree, and we need to shake their hand and ask how else we might help. That is all we need to do and in my humble opinion, we have not done it for fear of being accused of pandering.

45 posted on 08/19/2002 10:41:39 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
Anybody know how long Mr. D and Posner had their show.? My guess is that this will last about half of that time.

The Posner/Donahue gig ran on CNBC, roughly from around 1993 to the end of 1997.

46 posted on 08/19/2002 10:42:26 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink
1993 to the end of 1997

LOL! Way longer than I thought. But, Clinton was president and that other idiot/actor/moron (I forget his name) had a show that was getting some audience as well. Grodin or somebody.

47 posted on 08/19/2002 10:46:25 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: ladyinred
The day it is announced that Donahue has been cancelled, I think we should hold an online party celebrating the demise of that smug Socialist!

Count me in for that party! ;-D

48 posted on 08/19/2002 10:48:13 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: kattracks
I'm sobbing...

"the most promotion the channel has ever devoted to any program."

Gues this only works when the entire liberal media bands together, ala Clinton impeachment.

I spent a total of 15 minutes watching this simpleton interview Ann Coulter last month. What a buffoon! He literally couldn't hold a thought without referring to his notes. Annie sliced and diced him like an entree for Beni Hana's. It was brutal and he was absolutely pitiful. I'm only surprised that he has lasted this long. Guess thay had to hang on long enough to "save face' vis the enormous marketing budget/campaign. The libs need to learn that their message just doesn't sell!!! HaHaHaHaHaHaHaha!

49 posted on 08/19/2002 10:49:06 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: wirestripper
Grodin's a funnier case. IIRC, he only got the CNBC gig because Tom Snyder quit to host the hour after Letterman. And after a year or so, CNBC got so sick of him that they shoved him off to MSNBC only one night a week. And then they dumped him as soon as they could after that.
50 posted on 08/19/2002 10:51:15 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: kattracks
We'll have an election to cover and a war in Iraq

LOL. That's a good one. Phil must change his position on Iraq and start urging the president to arrack. A new twist on wag the dog.

51 posted on 08/19/2002 10:51:19 PM PDT by paul51
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To: RGVTx
"Then he went and ruined it all by showing his liberal side."

Yep. There are so many movies that I pass on b/c it involves some actor who confuses his proficiency in Theatre with Political Science. Trying to translate your fame into political activism is double-edged -- hard to forget their stupid political comments while trying to get into the character they're portraying. Just shows how shallow and stupid celebs are. If I was an actor, I certainly wouldn't piss off half my audience by supporting/oppossing hot-button political positions.

FWIW, most Celebs don't have a clue about the political positions they take -- they're merely trying to increase their marketabilty amoung the "in" crowd in Hollywood.
Trained Monkeys...
52 posted on 08/19/2002 10:52:23 PM PDT by Fenris3
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To: Timesink
Grodin's a funnier case.

I've got some other adjectives to describe that guy!

They definately would get the post pulled!

53 posted on 08/19/2002 10:53:55 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: Timesink
"If only 2-3% of blacks actually switch to Bush in 2004,"

Know what? I don't care if ANY Blacks switch to Bush. Its enough for me that they throw off the chains of ignorance, fear, and dependency that the Dems have enslaved them with.
This country will never realize its potential without the passion and energy of the black community. What the Liberals have done to them over the last 50 years is an abomination. Free yourselves and go where-ever your heart takes you!
54 posted on 08/19/2002 11:00:35 PM PDT by Fenris3
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To: operation clinton cleanup
57 million on this link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/701860.stm

55 posted on 08/19/2002 11:07:25 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: wirestripper
"we have not done it for fear of being accused of pandering."

Yep. You nailed it. And they may not be too open to another party after coming out from the Dems 50-year-con.
Best to continue to push causes like responsibilty and character and let them catch their breath for a bit. They'll come to our sides when they're ready.

56 posted on 08/19/2002 11:08:34 PM PDT by Fenris3
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To: operation clinton cleanup
http://www.unfoundation.org/unfnews/press/partner/1999/12/08/partner_pr_13998.asp

http://www.nandotimes.com/world/story/420893p-3356912c.html

Another 150 million there.

57 posted on 08/19/2002 11:11:07 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache
DAMN HTML!
58 posted on 08/19/2002 11:12:33 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: Fenris3
I agree, but we do need to do more at the grass roots level. I hope to do what I can.
59 posted on 08/19/2002 11:14:27 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
"Annie sliced and diced him like an entree for Beni Hana's."

Part of that was due to her style. She tends to be non-responsive to innane attacks from the Left -- just sits there and gives you that "what drugs are you on" look. Really confuses her opponents. They make this absurd remark, expect the typical conservative fall-apart, but instead get this puncuating silence...highlighting for your 20 million viewers what an idiotic remark you just made.
60 posted on 08/19/2002 11:15:51 PM PDT by Fenris3
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