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And you'd prefer us to sit on our hands and do nothing ala Clinton? Sitting around doing nothing got us 9-11. These people already hate us and mean us great harm. Don't give me the simpleton solution of abandoning Israel either, it's not going to fly. Israel is their coveinent excuse, they hate everything to do with Western Culture. Their so called religion has embarked on conquering the world on other occasions, this is simply their latest attempt.

"And you'd prefer us to sit on our hands and do nothing ala Clinton?"

And you'd, what, have us shape the world in our image...while, not coincidentally, put puppet governments
in place, a la Afghan--whose newly picked el presidente
was a Unocal lobbyist...Unocal being the erstwhile company lobbying for an oil/gas pipeline from the Caspian to Asia?
BTW, did you catch the post tonight about the record
Afghan opium crops? Must be our government has begun a
'war on drugs' there now, too.

"Sitting around doing nothing got us 9-11."

O really. Name me one connection of Iraq to 911.

"These people already hate us and mean us great harm."

They might not if we'd get out of their faces.

"Don't give me the simpleton solution of abandoning Israel either, it's not going to fly."

Abandoning Israel? They're one of the top half-dozen
military mights in the world, on top of which they're
said to have weapons technology we don't have.

"Israel is their coveinent excuse, they hate everything to do with Western Culture."

That's h.s. from our ministry of propaganda. What many
there hate is our imposing our culture on them.

"Their so called religion has embarked on conquering the world on other occasions, this is simply their latest attempt."

An example or two might make your point believable, but
I believe you have it backwards...it was called
the Crusades.