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Raid on Kmart lot leaves shock, anger( America PoliceState in the Making)
Houston Chronicle ^ | Aug. 19, 2002 | By RON NISSIMOV

Posted on 08/19/2002 11:53:25 AM PDT by USA21

Raid on Kmart lot leaves shock, anger

Teenagers, parents question arrests of 425 outside store

A crowd of angry teenagers and their parents accused police Sunday of arresting many innocent bystanders during an overnight raid on a west Houston parking lot where youths apparently congregate.

Scores of Houston police officers swarmed onto the Kmart parking lot in the 8400 block of Westheimer about 12:30 a.m. Sunday and arrested about 425 people for criminal trespassing, a misdemeanor.

Steve Campbell / Chronicle Soneary Sy is overcome with emotion outside the police station as she waits for her son to be released. Sy said she waited all night for her 17-year-old son, a straight-A student, to come home.

Houston Police Department spokesman Martin DeLeon said many cars were towed.

DeLeon said business owners have been complaining about youths gathering on their parking lots on weekend nights and causing a commotion.

DeLeon said he did not have more details about the incident because the two captains in charge of the raid, M.A. Aguirre and J.P. Mokwa, were sleeping Sunday after working all night.

The Kmart store is open 24 hours a day, and many of the people at the HPD station at 61 Reisner said Sunday that they had simply been shopping or eating at a Sonic drive-in restaurant that adjoins the discount store's parking lot when they were arrested.

Kmart and Sonic supervisors referred all questions to their corporate headquarters, which were not open Sunday.

"We went to use the restroom at Kmart and to buy a Scrunchi (hair band), and when we came back to our car, cops were coming in (the parking lot) and they tied our hands," said Brandi Ratliff, 18, who said she was a straight-A student at Waller High School and never had any problems with the law.

Ratliff said that even though she and two friends told police they had just come out of the Kmart, all three were arrested and spent the night in jail.

"It was traumatic," said a tearful Ratliff on Sunday morning after her parents drove from Stafford to pay her $300 bail at the downtown city jail. "It was sick where they were holding us. A prostitute was fighting with another woman. The food they served was food you would serve to a dog, not a human."

Ratliff and her two friends, Kris Karsteter, 21, and Kyesa Scott, 18, all had pink marks on their wrists from where they said police had tied plastic handcuffs too tightly.

Scott said she didn't have the money to pay bail and so she pleaded guilty to avoid spending another night in jail.

Steve Campbell / Chronicle Brandi Ratliff, left, and Kyesa Scott, both 18, comfort each other after being released from police custody. "It was traumatic," Ratliff said of her arrest in a Kmart parking lot and a night in jail.

Emily Demmler, 19, said: "All I was doing was eating ice cream."

Demmler said the only trouble she'd previously had with authorities was being called into the principal's office twice in elementary school for gossiping. She said she pulled her car into the Sonic lot shortly after midnight so she and her two friends could get some ice cream after a night of karaoke.

After about five minutes, police "just swarmed," Demmler said.

"We thought we were in the middle of a drug bust, and we thought, `We're cool; we're not doing anything wrong,' " said Demmler, a part-time lifeguard at the Jewish Community Center who is starting college this fall at the University of Houston.

Instead, all the patrons at the Sonic were ordered by police to march to the Kmart lot, where they joined throngs of other people who were being arrested, she said.

"My purse and my friend's purse were still in the car ... but the cop wouldn't let me get them," said Demmler, whose mother eventually recovered her car and both purses.

"We asked police why we were being arrested, and they said, `Everybody is receiving equal treatment from the Houston Police Department tonight.' It didn't matter what you were doing; they arrested you."

Demmler said many youths appearing to be 13 or 14 were arrested and taken to juvenile detention facilities, adding, "They even arrested a 10-year-old girl who was having dinner with her father and took her to juvenile detention.

"She got separated from her father and I asked her how old she was, and she told me she was 10," Demmler said. "She was dazed."

In a phone interview, Demmler claimed to have "huge marks on my arms" from tight handcuffs.

Leanne Williams said her 19-year-old son called her from jail and told her he showed police a receipt for bottled water from Kmart, but he was still arrested.

She said her son called her five times from the downtown jail, but police still couldn't locate him at 11 a.m. because his paperwork had been delayed.

"I gotta spend my Sunday at the jail searching for my son they can't find," said her husband, Jerome Williams.

Soneary Sy didn't know her 17-year-old son, a straight-A student, was arrested until he called her at 6 a.m.

"I didn't sleep all night waiting for my son to come home" said a sobbing Sy, a Cambodian immigrant who moved to Houston 22 years ago. "He tried to go to Kmart and as soon as he got to Kmart he was arrested."


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To: Biker Scum; dighton; aculeus; general_re
Right! Shoot the little bastards eh?

I am not sure of the heights and ages of those who congregated in the lots nor whether they were conceived out of wedlock, but I am sure that they robbed and vandalized the stores, intimidated shoppers, and that their lawlessness and unruly behavior resulted in the closing of almost every shop in that mall. Armed policemen may have made them think twice about their criminal intentions as compared to the feckless private security personnel that were hired.

To make the illogical assumption that I was advocating shooting them indicates your superficial reading of my post and a grave misunderstanding of the role of the police as protectors of the good and law-abiding individuals in our society.

161 posted on 08/20/2002 4:28:31 AM PDT by Orual
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To: cinFLA
From the article it looks like they emptied the Sonic and arrested anyone who was inside.

The kid could have just been in the bathroom for all we know.

Regardless the police department will be settling lawsuits for years.

162 posted on 08/20/2002 4:47:53 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Orual; Biker Scum; aculeus; general_re; hellinahandcart
Armed cops in malls are OK by me: not to shoot the little (insert expletive of your choice)s, but to discourage criminal activity.

That being said, it looks like the Houston raid was a major screw-up:

Raid went to 'hell in a handbasket'

163 posted on 08/20/2002 6:06:31 AM PDT by dighton
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To: USA21
I guess K-Mart is going out of business for sure now. It sounds like the Houston PD is out of control. I hope the idiots who pulled this stunt are sued into bankruptcy and never get a position of power again. Decent LEOs had better start cleaning up their ranks.
164 posted on 08/20/2002 6:12:31 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: dighton
Raid went to 'hell in a handbasket'

and, as usual, the "good twin" is totally left out. My bad sister gets everything. I hate her.

165 posted on 08/20/2002 6:17:32 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Orual; dighton; aculeus
Armed policemen may have made them think twice about their criminal intentions as compared to the feckless private security personnel that were hired.

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166 posted on 08/20/2002 6:19:35 AM PDT by general_re
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To: hellinahandcart; Orual; general_re; aculeus
Around and below this, figures fall into Hell and at the bottom, damaged now but detectable, is a devil (with a tail) pushing a wheelbarrow loaded with at least one and probably more figures. I think there is another prancing devil, possibly blowing a horn, above the wheelbarrow, but these small details are hard to see. This is, evidently, someone literally going to Hell in a handcart ...

167 posted on 08/20/2002 6:47:09 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Don Joe
"...the cops taught the Upstanding Citizens a lesson..."

Okay, you're as cynical as me! LOL!

Good post. Occam's Razor at work. ;^)
168 posted on 08/20/2002 7:56:29 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Bullish
I don't believe one word any of these kids say.

There's two sides to this story and I have a feeling the adults have a more credible one.

from The "adults" side of the story:

Houston Police Chief C.O. Bradford ordered an investigation Monday into the weekend arrests of hundreds of people gathered peacefully at a westside parking lot by police who were assigned to stop illegal drag racing.

"I couldn't believe we were being told to arrest all those kids. It was just utterly, utterly senseless,"

42 juveniles who were cited for violation of the city's midnight curfew. Thirty of the juveniles also were charged with criminal trespass.

What about the couple hundred others? What were they charged with???
This was a massive screw on the part of the cops, and some of them are big enough to admit it.
You don't arrest everybody in sight in the parking lot of a business during business hours. Some (many) of those arrested will be wrongly arrested.

169 posted on 08/20/2002 8:44:06 AM PDT by RandomUserName
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To: spooner
Raid went to 'hell in a handbasket'

Officers say Kmart bust was flubbed

Houston Police Chief C.O. Bradford ordered an investigation Monday into the weekend arrests of hundreds of people gathered peacefully at a westside parking lot by police who were assigned to stop illegal drag racing.

Officers on the scene called the arrests "utterly, utterly senseless" on Monday, and said the captain in charge, Mark Aguirre, ordered them to round up everyone who was outside the 24-hour Kmart Super Center or eating at the Sonic Drive-In next door.

The operation had been weeks in planning and involved dozens of officers. But officers involved said that when no drag racers were found, they were ordered to arrest the 278 people there.

Police on Sunday said 425 people were arrested, but Monday revised the count. Most were charged with criminal trespass.

"I couldn't believe we were being told to arrest all those kids. It was just utterly, utterly senseless," said one officer involved, who violated department policy by discussing the arrests and spoke on condition of anonymity.

"Captain Aguirre was put in charge, and it went to hell in a handbasket," said a police supervisor who was at the scene, also violating department policy and requesting anonymity.

Also taken into custody were 42 juveniles who were cited for violation of the city's midnight curfew. Thirty of the juveniles also were charged with criminal trespass.

Bradford issued a statement late Monday saying he had begun an inquiry into the arrests, including who was in charge and what instructions were given to the officers.

Two police supervisors said Monday that Aguirre, captain of the South Central Patrol Division, had taken over the operation after a dispute with the assigned leader at a staff meeting. Both blamed Aguirre.

"That operation had been planned for weeks," one of the supervisors said. "It was not planned with the intent to arrest everyone in sight. It was to arrest drag racers."

Both police supervisors said the Sunday operation began under the supervision of Westside Patrol Capt. John Mokwa, in whose area it took place.

But when Aguirre angered Mokwa during a command staff meeting by insisting he knew how the operation should be conducted, he and Mokwa got the permission of an assistant chief for Aguirre to take over, the supervisors said.

Neither Aguirre nor Mokwa returned calls Monday.

The supervisors said the operation was part of a series of recent police efforts to stop illegal drag racing.

During a June 15 raid, police found more than 300 cars gathered in the 7100 block of Business Park Drive, where eight people were arrested for reckless driving and three for public intoxication. Police also issued 32 traffic tickets and cited 16 juveniles for breaking the city's curfew.

On June 22, another raid in the 7000 block of Westheimer to Texas 6 netted five arrests for reckless driving and 65 tickets.

Bradford's statement also said he plans to investigate why police arrested the people gathered in the parking lots instead of issuing citations as in the previous operations.

The Sunday raid "was a complete waste of weeks of work and a huge amount of manpower," said one of the supervisors.

"There are all those kids now, who have a criminal record, and don't deserve it," said the other supervisor.

Hundreds of young people gather in the parking lots of the Kmart and adjacent Sonic on weekend nights.

Those businesses and others in the area, as well as nearby residents, have in the past complained about the noise and litter, police said.

Police were interested in the spot's role as a race staging area, where young drivers admire one another's vehicles, then go to other nearby locations to race, said one of the supervisors.

The two supervisors said police had "scout cars" and undercover officers working surveillance at the gathering spot for weeks in preparation for Sunday's raid.

"But we got out there, and no one was racing," said one of the supervisors. "So Aguirre just said, `Arrest them all for trespass.'

"It was like, `Kill them all and let God sort them out,' " said the other supervisor. "I guess we're just lucky he didn't order us to fire warning shots into the crowd or anything."

Both supervisors said many of the people arrested were not in cars. Many were eating food from the Sonic, which was open until 2 a.m., or had been shopping at Kmart.

Monday, Kmart corporate spokeswoman Susan Dennis acknowledged the store has had complaints about the weekend night crowds.

"Our first concern is the safety of our customers and associates," Dennis said. "As for the action taken, that was the police. There was no directive from Kmart."

A woman who answered the phone at the Sonic on Monday said no one there wished to speak to the news media.

HPD's internal affairs division was flooded Monday with people filing complaints over their arrests.

"I was eating ice cream from the Sonic when I was arrested," 19-year-old Emily Demmler said Monday. She and several friends, all of whom were arrested, met at Demmler's house Monday to go file IAD complaints.

An IAD officer said many of those who filed complaints Monday were discussing lawsuits over the incident.

"I don't feel safe anywhere now," Demmler said of the experience. "It was really wrong, what they did."

Many of those arrested Sunday pleaded guilty in order to get out of jail quicker and go about the business of retrieving their cars, all of which were towed away.

Martin DeLeon, an HPD spokesman, said the tow fee is $103 and the storage fee averages about $15 a day, but some auto-storage facilities can charge more.

Ronald Beylotte, chief prosecutor for the city attorney's office, said the cases that are set for trial will probably be scheduled in four to six weeks.

Aguirre has run afoul of department policy many times in his 20 years with HPD.

The most recent, an allegation that Aguirre used foul and threatening language to his subordinates, garnered the captain a written reprimand from Bradford, which was overturned by an arbitrator.

That incident also resulted in an investigation of perjury allegations against Bradford, who testified at Aguirre's hearing that he doesn't use profanity to his subordinates.

Bradford later was contradicted by an assistant chief, who testified that Bradford had once called him a quite profane name

170 posted on 08/20/2002 8:48:41 AM PDT by USA21
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To: RANDomScout
You're not wrong. It does sound familiar. Perhaps not as critical or sensative but same SOP.

We had a "gut" that we cruised to the point of traffic stoppage here in my home town. The same kind of hangouts etc.. All the police had to do to get us to stop was patrol the area pretty regularly and hand out tickets to those breaking the law. Took about a month to get us off the main drag.

EBUCK

171 posted on 08/20/2002 9:10:29 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: jdege
The cops were just doing their jobs.

It's the bureaucrats who sent them there who are the primary problem.

Good point.

172 posted on 08/20/2002 10:02:32 AM PDT by bassmaner
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To: USA21
"I guess we're just lucky he didn't order us to fire warning shots into the crowd..."

H*ll, such an act would have its supporters, even here.
173 posted on 08/20/2002 10:07:38 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: *Donut watch
ping
174 posted on 08/20/2002 10:19:50 AM PDT by Henrietta
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To: chookter
I guess if there is a law against 18, 19 and 21 year olds eating a a sonic after midnight.

Or shopping for hair scrunchies at Kmart!

175 posted on 08/20/2002 10:20:52 AM PDT by Henrietta
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To: EBUCK
The cops should have been enforcing the laws against the actual punks all along, so that the problem would not have festered like a boil.

I agree with this statement from another poster. The police action should have begun long before it turned into a mass arrest situation. Just run them off the lot. I worked in a fast food place once that had curb service and we had a problem with loitering late at night. Paying customers were welcome as long as they stayed in their cars. The manager just went outside and told the loiterers to leave and they complied. We didn't have too much trouble after that. The situation at the McDonalds next door was different. It was chaos. Some of the loiterers were McDonalds employees. Eventually the police had to be called to break up fights and to clear the lot.

176 posted on 08/20/2002 3:47:08 PM PDT by virgil
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