Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: sauropod
'Pod, I really don't want to go into the abortion thing here. BTW, I'm a Pro-Lifer.

I think what the intent of that message was if you have a man and a woman debating the abortion issue, the hand tips naturally to the woman. It doesn't mean the woman will always win the debate.

If you have two men debating abortion, it's a fair debate.

247 posted on 08/20/2002 8:03:25 AM PDT by Slip18
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 242 | View Replies ]


To: Slip18
I think what the intent of that message was if you have a man and a woman debating the abortion issue, the hand tips naturally to the woman. It doesn't mean the woman will always win the debate. If you have two men debating abortion, it's a fair debate.

I am a sexist, pure and simple. I know for a fact that in each fertilized egg -- at the moment of conception -- is laid out the natural division of labor by which it is the male's purview to provide for and shelter the new life while it is the woman's realm to organize the child. No doubt they have different roles in life as a rule.

But to place the accidents of their personality regarding sex above their essential human nature -- their intellect, reason, apprehension of reality and expected obedience to truth -- is not only dead wrong but a patent conceit of the left who uses exactly these strictly emotional and subjective arguments to rake the debate always in their favor.

Thus, I find your statement above to be an utterly offensive and inherently leftist/deathist bit of propaganda.

The notion that one's sex organs add something substantive to one's appreciation or defense of the Right to Life is an absurd piece of nonsense used as leverage for Deathist propaganda which wouldn't stand on its own merits in debate otherwise. "It's my body." B/S It's the body you don't want born you're killing.

The fact I've been pregnant, contemplated abortion, called around to clinics, gone through the adoption process and miscarried anyway may afford me the experience, empathy and insight necessary to be of good counsel to a woman in the same predicament but it has no particular bearing whatsoever on my appreciation of the right to life.

In fact, it's that experience which is quite likely to make me weak-willed ... tempting me to relent and sympathize with a woman in a terrible position rather than offer her with all due love and tact a steady defense of her unborn child's life.

It's the dispassionate, exacting and objective arguments of men that have honed my thinking and made my defense of the right to life a consistent one. Women NEED men for this very reason. Fathers MUST assert their right to defend the lives of their unborn children. It's letting "women decide women's issues" that has resulted in our horrific Culture of Death whose Clean Hands have now compromised our "Excess" already-been-killed Children by legitimizing their use for taxpayer-funded humanitarian research.

I wanted to give all the information I had which we learned in this fantastic meeting. But I can't and I won't.

Aw, gee whiz. Did you stamp your little foot as you typed that or just let a tear or two roll down your cheek?

The comment was absolutely inexcusable and indicative of just how compromised is the so-called "conservative" movement.

You're just going to have to forgive us for feeling we probably didn't miss much if this guy leaves it to the wimmen (like pro-aborts Barbara Bush and Laura Bush, perhaps?) to make the argument for the Universal, God-given, inalienable Right to Life which precedes all others.


254 posted on 08/20/2002 8:26:32 AM PDT by Askel5
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 247 | View Replies ]

To: Slip18
These people are unbelievable! I almost feel sorry for them. Too bad they can't be bothered to pull up the conference audio archive and listen to what Chuck Muth actually said and address his comments. I'd be curious if they even have a response and a solution, because what he speaks of would solve the entire abortion "problem."

Instead, they'd rather stand on street corners and proclaim: "Abortion is murder. You're going to hell."

What a bunch of losers.
267 posted on 08/20/2002 8:45:24 AM PDT by Auntie Mame
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 247 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson