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Does 'lost' Ark exist in Ethiopia?
The Billings Gazatte ^
| August 17, 2002 ( Last modified August 17, 2002 - 12:37 am)
| By RICHARD N. OSTLING
Posted on 08/18/2002 4:37:37 PM PDT by vannrox
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posted on
08/18/2002 4:37:38 PM PDT
by
vannrox
To: vannrox
They may have a good replica, possibly even the one made by Solomon for Sheba, but the original is in Israel in a catacomb under the north side of Old City of Jerusalem.
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posted on
08/18/2002 4:39:37 PM PDT
by
crystalk
To: vannrox
The Sign and the Seal is an excellent read.
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posted on
08/18/2002 4:43:53 PM PDT
by
csvset
To: crystalk
I saw a long piece on TLC or such about a guy who went to Ethiopia and had lots of footage of the chapel housing the ARK. It's on an island somewhere in Ethiopia. The photo above is probably a file photo and not real. The folks in Ethiopis think the ARK is there. Only one guy sees it and it is never on public display. He made a very strong case that if not the ARk there is something very holy there and it has been there for a very very long time.
My own thought is that the Ark was removed from Jerusalem. There are bias relief sculptures in Rome indicating the Ark was brought to Rome by hadrian with orther treasures but no knoelwdge of what happened to it in Rome.
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posted on
08/18/2002 4:51:16 PM PDT
by
bert
To: vannrox
No, anybody with any sense knows the Ark is in the deepest, darkest recesses of a warehouse whose location is only known to the guys in black suits in Langley...![](http://indyfan.com/gallery/wander/raiders/warehouse.jpg)
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posted on
08/18/2002 5:06:40 PM PDT
by
mhking
To: vannrox
I read the book. Fascinating. Really interesting stuff..........although he makes compelling arguments, he was quite candid in concluding that there is no conclusive evidence that the Ark resides in Axxum. Still.............a whale of a read.
To: vannrox
I think the most important aspect of the Ark and the stories surrounding it is that when you have faith in the teachings and commandments of the Lord, you are strong, and can overcome many obstacles. We are all "Arks" ourselves....when we have faith in the Ten Commandments. And the teachings of Lord are so great that they can even astonish earthly kings.
So, I guess the ark is kind of a metaphor for all of us when we accept His teachings and direction. There may be an actual Ark out there somewhere, but to me the idea behind the story is that with God in your heart (the Ten Commandments contained in the Ark), obstacles are few. I hope that made sense.
To: crystalk
Speaking of the Arc of the Covenant...
...the original is in Israel in a catacomb under the north side of Old City of Jerusalem.
If that is the case, then the ultimate question must be posed, "Why is it still sitting there and not brought out to unleash the almighty power that it contains to slay the Arabs who want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth?"
Do the Levites have something "up their sleeve" for later, after more Jews are maimed and killed, or are they putting together a sequel to the Book of Job, i.e. "Job II, the Sufferer Guy"?
Hammurabi's original code of laws that afforded Sumer (Babylonia proper) a civil and criminal law system centuries before the Old Testament was scripted are probably in the Arc, if it in fact the Arc ever existed, and the Jews damn sure don't want anybody to know about that.
Those who aren't afraid of being struck down by a bolt of lightning should go
Here and look for the similarities of the Babylonian Hammurabi's Code of Laws and those rewritten centuries later as the text of the Bible.
...or
Here #2 for further enlightenment.
A note of interest: Hammurabi's reign was from 1795-1750 BC...
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posted on
08/18/2002 5:40:40 PM PDT
by
Vidalia
To: csvset; bert; RightOnline; vannrox
"The Sign and the Seal is an excellent read." By Graham Hancock as Vannrox points out.
The professors debunk the Ethopia legend on the grounds that Aksum (the city where the Ark is located) did not exist at the time of Solomons reign in Israel--a valid objection.
However Hancock's thesis is that the Ark was removed from Israel during the reign of Manassa (about 650 BC--long after the time of the Menaleik legend which would have been in the middle of the tenth century BC) and taken to a newly constructed Temple on Elephantine Island in the Nile in Egypt where it was located for about two hundred years. There is significant historical support for the existence of the Temple; there is a large body of correspondence which survives between the priests of that temple who were Levites and the priests in Jerusalem and later with the excile community in Babylon.
Hancock trances the Ethiopian history on the ground from Elephantine to an island in Lake Tana where the Ark reposed for several hundred years when it was then moved to Aksum.
Supporting evidence is found in the history of the Knights Templer who were organized during the Crusades in Jerusalem for the purposes of finding the Ark. After substantial investigation there, they moved their focus to Ethopia and there is a body of evidence placing red haired Europeans in Ethopia in custody of the Ark just before King Philip destroyed the Templers.
Hancock's analysis hangs together very well--he is not part of the professional education community so they reject his work however I see the book as an excellant analysis of the evidence and it makes a good case that the object in the church of Christ Mary in Aksum is in fact the Ark.
I don't think there is any evidence in support of the "buried under the Temple Mount" argument--I think if it were buried under the Temple Mount or for that matter anywhere in proximity to Jerusalem, it would have appeared when Ezra reconstructed the Temple.
It should be noted in our time that Issah Chapter 18 is a prophecy that in a time of famine and tribulation in Ethopia, the Ethopians will send a gift to the mount of Zion which is an ensign (which the Ark was)--return of the Ark to Jerusalem would be likely to initiate a resumption of the sacrificial worship system, with or without reconstruction of the Temple; thus making possible fulfillment of the prophecy of Daniel 9:27 that the sacrifices would be interrupted at the commencement of the Great Tribulation in Matthew 24:15.
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posted on
08/18/2002 5:59:41 PM PDT
by
David
To: David
Great Summary and commentary.
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posted on
08/18/2002 6:02:29 PM PDT
by
vannrox
To: vannrox
There is a reasoning behind the different spellings of the "Arc of the Covenant" and the "Ark of Noah" but that will be lost on those of this board.
Therefore, from now on both will be spelled the same, "ARK".
That brings up yet another question.
Both ARKS are supposed to be the salvation of mankind.
If we are to believe with pure faith the account of the ARK of Noah, then why are only mankind and the beasts mentioned to be paired and saved, with no mention of any plant life other than fodder for the beasts?
Forty days and forty nights of steady rainfall would extinguish a great proportion of all but the hardiest flora (maybe the coconut was spared for a reason)?
The ARK of the Covenant has already been addressed, but it is still a mystery why Jewish babies and children are continuing to suffer after some two thousand plus years when the Israelis are supposed to be the "chosen children of God"...
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posted on
08/18/2002 6:02:40 PM PDT
by
Vidalia
To: mhking
No such warehouse exists. And there aren't any guys in black suits. Really. You can believe me.
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posted on
08/18/2002 6:07:00 PM PDT
by
neutrino
To: neutrino
No such warehouse exists. And there aren't any guys in black suits. Really. You mean Henry Jones didn't find it?
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posted on
08/18/2002 6:11:59 PM PDT
by
mhking
To: bert
No, the Ark is never pictured in Rome.
Could not have been, of course, for it was never even in the Second Temple, built c517 BC...
It had already been put down in the tunnel by Jeremiah and Baruch c610 BC.
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posted on
08/18/2002 6:12:37 PM PDT
by
crystalk
To: sirshackleton
Great sense. The holiest icons and places are the hearts and minds that strive for Good to make a better world.
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posted on
08/18/2002 6:22:40 PM PDT
by
onedoug
To: mhking
Henry Jones No, you're thinking of someone else. There was never an archaeologist person by that name. Really! (Grin)
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posted on
08/18/2002 6:52:07 PM PDT
by
neutrino
To: vannrox
good post!
To: Vidalia
You seem to be chafing for an argument with someone, maybe with anyone.
Why?
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posted on
08/18/2002 6:58:16 PM PDT
by
Don Joe
To: vannrox
Here's a site form an archaelogist who claims to have found it. Also claims to have found the location of the crucifixion. VERY interesting info, and theologically sound. As for the truth of his story, we'll soon find out...
http://www.wyattarchaeology.com/ark.htm
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posted on
08/18/2002 7:04:24 PM PDT
by
ovrtaxt
To: Vidalia
...the original is in Israel in a catacomb under the north side of Old City of Jerusalem.
If that is the case, then the ultimate question must be posed, "Why is it still sitting there and not brought out to unleash the almighty power that it contains to slay the Arabs who want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth?"
The truth is they did try to go get it. They started digging under the dome of the rock and the arabs complained the israelis were trying to blow up the dome of the rock. They ended up stopping and according to jewish tradition it is still somewhere under the temple mount and will stay there until the messiah comes.
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