MSNBC FUTURE IN DOUBT

DrudgeReport.com ^ | August 18, 2002

[BJR]

Did you notice that Phyllis and Studs (the way he was slurring his words--he should be named Suds!) had on matching pink checkered shirts with red underwear. I only breezed past the channel a few times thinking phyllis was bound to jump over the table to lay a big fat kiss on turkel's mouth.

Her show is tanking by the minute, yet this whiner stoops to bringing on a 90 year old flamer for the whole hour.

This lib is nothing if not stubborn.

[Landru]

re 180; beautifully said & then some.

...obviously another labor-of-love.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Thank you, deport...I knew you'd have what I was looking for. You da man. :)

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Thanks, Howlin. The numbers were actually worse for Keyes than I remembered.

RE: As soon as the transcript is up on MSNBC, I am going to post it as a thread.

I just posted to you on LarryLied's thread. I tried to read the whole transcript, but it was too much of a commie freak show to stomach. I only made it about half-way through.

[bert]

I have no argument with your excellant analysis

[oyez]

It is damn near impossible for a knowitall to be a good host. After all, why should he have guests if he is above everybody?

[ForGod'sSake]

The "little people" expected a "return" on their investments; so, if they're feeling "pissed-off" now? It's becuase they're becoming aware of the *fact* they've been royally snookered.

HAR! Indeed they/we have been. To put it in some perspective...all they thought they had at risk was some bucks, which is a viable motivator in and of itself;WE on the other hand saw a larger problem; the wasting of the capitalist/free market system. To be replaced of course by a social order of their own design. Just curious who you think would be at the top of this pyramid???In any case, socialist do-gooders will never learn. It's as if history books do not exist for them.

..."revel in your time."

I'll hold off a litte while longer to party. Maybe when I'm kicking dirt on 'em ; )

FGS

[ForGod'sSake]

Great piece cIc.

Mass-marketing/PR is a source of considerable destructive political power in America.
Mass-marketing/PR have much to answer for, and the conceit of "journalistic objectivity" seems to be the root of PR.

Absolutely nothing I could add to that except a hearty AMEN!

FGS

[ForGod'sSake]

Liberal bias in journalism is the chicken, and Liberalism in politics is the egg. One of them came first, I suppose . . .

I meant to comment on this one earlier, but it slipped by in my haste. As to which came first, it's probably academic. I suspect the utopians have been in the media for a very long time; the field seems to attract their type.

There are probably some Freepers around old enough to remember FDR's administration(s) if only vaguely, and have some recollection of the media's treatment of his social dabbling. From what I remember of LBJ's "Great Society", the media acted like kids in a candy store. They couldn't get enough. Lesson plan for future politicians?

FGS

[Landru]

"To put it in some perspective...all they thought they had at risk was some bucks, which is a viable motivator in and of itself..."

Let us pause to thank the good Lord in Heaven for that, too.
OUR Liberal-Socialsts from the very beginning have targeted the one thing that'll blow-through a person's self induced euphoria faster than a hot knife through soft butter: their money visa-vi Capitalism.
Our *brand* of Liberal-Socialist here stateside even used many of the same modus operandis as their European brothern (& mentors) have used the entire past century towards their end, too.

Our quislings had something at their access the European Leftist never had, though -- & in the exteme -- control over an immence mass media monster possessed of tenticles capable of reaching every social nook & cranny in our entire nation.

Of course just as the efforts in Europe by their Leftist cousins years before, our Liberal-Socialist's reasoning would become so distorted by their illusions of grandure??
They'd loose their way & eventually collapse under their own weight -- at some point -- while on their merry way to the *prize* they sought: us.

We all realize the Liberal-Socialist will never stop trying to achieve their Utopian nightmare, though; take that to the bank.
Why wouldn't you know it; I just did hear SeeBS is courting the vulgerest of 'em all, our very own Sink Emporer for a "Talk Show;" while, Disney-Cap Cities is courting Car-Vile for CARTOONS!! (fittin' actually.)
Point is, unlike Genral Electric & their seeing the light, it's obvious VIACOM & Disney are going full speed-ahead with the SOS-Leftist-Socialist scheme.
So let their actions serve as Word to the Wise -- investor -- to DUMP VIACOM/DisCapC stock, now!
ASK the tough questions of your broker(s) &/or those [you] contribute your money to who're managing your retirement funds to tell you precisely WHERE your dough's going to be invested.
Now's the time to take appropriate action & lay down the law to these pinheads who'll collect commissions from you, sure enough; & then disapper while the guys who now have your loot WASTE it for what we KNOW are political PC & Liberal-Socialist causes!
FGS?
The buck stops with us.

The *cycle* of "young & dumb" maturing (theoretically :o) ) into "Bruised & Wise" has a definite time frame associated with it.
That's why it's so obvious to me the ability of OUR Leftist-Socialists to have access to our kids?
Is so very fundemental to whatever future they're ever going to have; &, why their leaders infest our learning institutions in such great numbers.

In that vein, then, isn't it interesting how we'll BITCH & raise cain about permitting a Gay male in the BSA; while, neglecting to see the *real* dangers associated with turning over the nation's young minds to these older -- hence devote -- Socialists/Communists???
Damned odd to me, for sure.

Remember, this Sorenson geek & dozens of others just like 'em who're now in control of our Lamestream?
Are actually the *child-products* of the insideous SOBs at these Colleges & Universities across this vast nation. Right?

"WE on the other hand saw a larger problem; the wasting of the capitalist/free market system. To be replaced of course by a social order of their own design."

Well, yes.
It's important we add to our perspective the *order* in which these guys worked while they were merrily on their way leading all of us to their "Promised Land" of Socialist-Utopia.
That is to say, they HAD to trash our culture first; &, do so by illustrating (articulating *for* us?) every bad aspect they could scrounge-up about Capitalism they possibly could & at every opportunity so we could be carpet-bombed with this garbage.
Their actions included LYING where & when they thought they could get away with it, too; &, with their Lamestream media at their command?
They certainly thought the (snow) *job* would be a virtual slam-dunk.
Have to admit, my friend, there were times I thought it'd happen too, myself.

"Just curious who you think would be at the top of this pyramid???"

Gezzzz, FGS; your guess would be as good as mine, I'd say.
Whoever it was stepping up to assume power, though -- had they succeeded -- would've come to know the very meaning of *one* German word; "Krystalnact."
I'd lay money on that, too; as, brutality's the bedrock *&* track record of Leftist-Socialist-Communist thugs since the very beginning.
The Leftist-Socialist-Communist thug always forgets to account for human nature and the dominant constituent components of ambition, greed (yea...oy.) & a thirst for power.
The Leftist-Socialist-Communist never *seems* to remember the simple axiom; "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" *somehow* thinking they're above all that.
Not until the bullet slams into & through their thick skulls, anyway.

"In any case, socialist do-gooders will never learn. It's as if history books do not exist for them."

A correct & very wise observation, my friend.
Further underscoring their dependence on *using* our young & ignorant peoples to further their aged-old failure of an ideology.
No one with a lick of sense (ie, mature in years) would give 'em the time of day otherwise & we'd be gawking at their bones setup in a museum right alongside a Stegosaurus.

"I'll hold off a litte while longer to party. Maybe when I'm kicking dirt on 'em."

With the right & freedom to "kick that dirt on 'em", comes the right & freedom to choose when.

We need to put VIACOM & Dis-Cap Cities in our cross-hairs, now; in earnest.

...oh geshhhh; I do go-on so, eh? ;^)

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

There are probably some Freepers around old enough to remember FDR's administration(s) if only vaguely, and have some recollection of the media's treatment of his social dabbling. From what I remember of LBJ's "Great Society", the media acted like kids in a candy store. They couldn't get enough. Lesson plan for future politicians?

I'm not sure that journalism was as monolithically (sp) socialist as it now is. Perhaps FDR had a bit more journalistic opposition than x42, but it definitely seems that FDR got away wity murder in his own way. Among his many whoppers, x42 heaped calumny on "the worst economy in the past 50 years" when the economy was actually in recovery from a mild recession. That was relatively mild compared to some things we could mention, of course.

About 1919 or so FDR wrote a letter to a Democratic colleague in which he lamented "It's a shame we can't get him [Republican Herbert Hoover] elected president." So in his heart if not actively, FDR bore responsility for the advent of the Hoover Administration; we can't in fact know whether FDR might not actually have exercised his own secret ballot in favor of Hoover. Not only so, but FDR's policies were no improvement, indeed scarcely a change, from Hoover's (the records for public-works spending &c which FDR broke were set by Hoover. And since FDR's economic policies were ad hoc, and since the Great Depression in fact lasted until the onset of WWII, we can say that FDR had no more actual clue what to do about it than Hoover had.

IOW, when he leveraged the heaping of calumny on the head of Herbert Hoover into lifetime incumbancy in the White House, FDR got away with murder.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

Thanks!

[ForGod'sSake]

Further underscoring their dependence on *using* our young & ignorant peoples to further their aged-old failure of an ideology.

Truly amazing is it not? Makes one want to dissect their brains, such as they are, to see if they have missing sypanses. On the other hand, I can hearken back to my early college days when the notion of having a benevolent state look after us didn't seem all that bad an idea. It quickly passed however once family responsibilities kicked in ; )

This notion of acting in our own best interests is a concept the utopians can't come to grips with. They view it as selfishness, while most of us correctly view it as self sufficiency. WE will not willingly be a burden to anyone; they on the other hand... These are the people that bring us our "news" every night.

Teenagers in suits is what I call 'em.

[ForGod'sSake]

...FDR's policies were no improvement, indeed scarcely a change, from Hoover's (the records for public-works spending &c which FDR broke were set by Hoover.)

I wasn't aware that HH planted the big gummint acorn. And with the blessing(?) of FDR no less, who spread plenty of fertilizer on it during his shift(s)???

I suppose the "free press" has been at odds with one group of politicians or another forever. And I guess it really doesn't matter what their politics were in the past except maybe to note their influence for historical purposes. Thanks for the history lesson ; )

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

the history lesson

.. . came curtesy of C-Span. I was stunned to realize it, but Brian Lamb interviewed a historian about Hoover, and he was very explicit:

Hoover was a famous executive--and famous for his relief work in Europe after WWI. So it makes sense that he would mount a relief effort to help Americans when he was POTUS and the Depression hit. Turned out to be defacto New Deal, I guess. FDR tried all sorts of things, including restraint of trade to try to prop up prices, but he's best known for big spending. And he couldn't have done any more than Hoover had, if Hoover hadn't started it first and gotten the ball rolling.

The other thing that bothered me was my Republican brother saying that FDR did a fine job in WWII. But what, in fact, would make you think that Hoover couldn't have run a war just as well himself???

[ForGod'sSake]

Some interesting points from the Whitehouse Library:

After the crash Hoover announced that while he would keep the Federal budget balanced, he would cut taxes and expand public works spending.

In 1931 repercussions from Europe deepened the crisis, even though the President presented to Congress a program asking for creation of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation to aid business, additional help for farmers facing mortgage foreclosures, banking reform, a loan to states for feeding the unemployed, expansion of public works, and drastic governmental economy.

At the same time he reiterated his view that while people must not suffer from hunger and cold, caring for them must be primarily a local and voluntary responsibility.

His opponents in Congress, who he felt were sabotaging his program for their own political gain, unfairly painted him as a callous and cruel President. Hoover became the scapegoat for the depression and was badly defeated in 1932. In the 1930's he became a powerful critic of the New Deal, warning against tendencies toward statism.

I note some contradictions; surprised? Me neither.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

You know, you and I are posting, but it's almost as if we were doing freepmail, for all the general attention it'll draw.

But I'll bet you could start a really popular thread if you worked up and organized this info; wouldn't necessarily take much more research than you already have. Probably a lot of people would chip in, if they found a thread with "FDR" in the title . . .

[Landru]

"This notion of acting in our own best interests is a concept the utopians can't come to grips with."

No FGS, I should imagine they'd struggle mightily with that one. alright.
Kinda goes *counter* to everything a Liberal-Socialist-Communist believes is proper & correct; in, their "Natural Order" of things, huh?

Of course we VRWConspirators here in America?
I'm afraid we know all-too-well that in the Liberal-Socialist-Communist's world??
There'll be none of that pesky "counter to our will" crap tolerated.

...the Liberal-Socialist so-hates the word, "no." ;^)

[jriemer]

Bring out yer dead!

[ForGod'sSake]

Probably a lot of people would chip in, if they found a thread with "FDR" in the title . . .

I'm sure you're right, but it's sorta "old" news in any case. Without really researching it, I could argue that FDR got a free ride from the free press and would probably win that argument. The opponent likely wouldn't be able to argue their case with any documentation...

I'll bet there are any number of Freepers and lurkers following this thread even though we have gotten off topic ; )