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Angry Truck Stop Manager Turns Away Police, Safety Inspectors - Flying J stands it ground
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Posted on 08/18/2002 8:03:42 AM PDT by chance33_98

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To: chance33_98
Excellent! Airport Security coming soon to a neighborhood near you.

Prohibited conduct must be uncovered and punished. Everywhere. All the time. Unless your name is Ted Kennedy. Barbara Boxer. Charles Schumer. Jane Fonda. Cynthia McKinney......

21 posted on 08/18/2002 9:02:20 AM PDT by Copernicus
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To: Larry Lucido
Well, it was the Albuquerque Police that used a helicopter to stop at Krispy Kreme. (The policemen were suspended or fired. I always thought KK paid them enough under the table for retirement. It Pays To Advertise.)
22 posted on 08/18/2002 9:10:42 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
I kind of doubt that traffic cops, and motor vehicle inspectors have the appropriate training for investigating felonies.

You have hit on something there. Nevertheless a number agencies in that category HAVE been issued personal weapons and the "training" to use them.

We now arrive at a time when a Social Worker without warrant or probable cause can come on your property to investigate "child abuse" or "endangerment" and if you start mouthing off they may decide to continue their investigation "by force of arms"

Welcome to 21st Century Patriot Act America.

Best regards,

23 posted on 08/18/2002 9:11:22 AM PDT by Copernicus
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
I kind of doubt that traffic cops, and motor vehicle inspectors have the appropriate training for investigating felonies.

You have hit on something there. Nevertheless a number agencies in that category HAVE been issued personal weapons and the "training" to use them.

We now arrive at a time when a Social Worker without warrant or probable cause can come on your property to investigate "child abuse" or "endangerment" and if you start mouthing off they may decide to continue their investigation "by force of arms"

Welcome to 21st Century Patriot Act America.

Best regards,

24 posted on 08/18/2002 9:12:02 AM PDT by Copernicus
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To: Copernicus
Bump to your post.

Now just watch out for the steroid infested nuts to kick your doors in for speaking your mind.
25 posted on 08/18/2002 9:14:02 AM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Copernicus
Nevertheless a number agencies in that category HAVE been issued personal weapons and the "training" to use them.

As we saw a week ago, when a foaming at the mouth 'Constitutionalist', blew away a cop in Massilon, Ohio after a traffic stop, traffic cops need weapons to defend themselves.

26 posted on 08/18/2002 9:16:09 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: unixfox
We're the gubermint and we only only go for easy revenue...Go out and be real cops, and chase real criminals where bullets fly? Fergit about that...we only do "easy money".
27 posted on 08/18/2002 9:55:41 AM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: unixfox
Because murderers, burglers, thugs, horse thieves, cattle rustlers, et. al. do little to produce revenue. And let's be honest, the main purpose of DOT and traffic cops is to create revenue. Just another form of taxation without representation.
28 posted on 08/18/2002 9:59:36 AM PDT by stoney
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
As we saw a week ago, when a foaming at the mouth 'Constitutionalist', blew away a cop in Massilon, Ohio after a traffic stop, traffic cops need weapons to defend themselves.

The article in question did not really make it clear which party was "foaming at the mouth".What it did say was that the "suspect" stopped his car,rolled down his window,showed his driver's license,engaged in conversation,but was uncooperative!

29 posted on 08/18/2002 10:09:54 AM PDT by kennyo
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To: kennyo; Cultural Jihad; Kevin Curry
What it did say was that the "suspect" stopped his car,rolled down his window,showed his driver's license,engaged in conversation,but was uncooperative!

'Uncooperative! I guess that is one way of saying that he fled from the traffic stop, which is a felony. When he was pursued, and stopped again, he was witnessed pulling a weapon. He then fled again, and when he was stopped the last time, he left the car firing his weapon, killing a local cop, leaving a widow and children. I guess that you can call this uncooperative! Wonder why you left this part out?

30 posted on 08/18/2002 10:23:39 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
The ideologues like to abstract the important parts. "Don was killed merely for speeding, for crying out loud!" which implies that he was minding his own business, albeit going a few miles over the speed limit, when a police cruiser came along side of his car and blasted him.

The ideologues in their juvenile mentality will point to the horrors of force: John littered a Snickers bar candy wrapper, and a policeman saw it and came along to give him a $20.00 ticket for his infraction, hoping to make him act a little more responsibly next time. Well, John tore up the ticket and threw it in the gutter. The date of his court apprearance came and went, so a bench warrant was issued. The police came by his trailer to arrest him for his failure to appear. John refuses to come out. To make his point on how serious he is about wanting to be left alone, he brandishes a weapon. Eventually it escalates and now John is dead. The ideologues would claim: "Gee! The Blue Meanies murdered John merely for littering a candy wrapper! You want to murder people for littering?! 'Cause that is what you are doing when you support the rule of law!"

31 posted on 08/18/2002 10:34:01 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
As we saw a week ago, when a foaming at the mouth 'Constitutionalist', blew away a cop in Massilon, Ohio after a traffic stop, traffic cops need weapons to defend themselves.

The Massillon Threads are filled with errors of logic and improper reasoning based on newspaper accounts filled with errors of omission and comission as well as errors of logic and improper reasoning. They have been properly bumped into the new "Smokey Backroom Forum" where they belong and where I am content to leave them.

My offers to discuss the issues on that topic in those threads were rebutted with inflammatory language and in some cases abusive posts which were pulled by the moderator.

If you wish to discuss those issues in a non-inflammatory manner in some thread somewhere I am willing to entertain the idea as my time and circumstances permit.

I will practice "zero tolerance" for derogatory characterizations of either the Officer or the Citizen killed in that inane encounter.

And yes, everyone needs a gun to defend themselves. They must also have a healthy respect for proper rules of engagement. Something government agencies seem to lack with alarming frequency.

Best regards,

32 posted on 08/18/2002 10:34:12 AM PDT by Copernicus
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To: Pete-R-Bilt
Check this out! I guess you are going to have to call ahead to find out if the fuel pumps are open.
33 posted on 08/18/2002 10:39:35 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Copernicus
The Massillon Threads are filled with errors of logic and improper reasoning based on newspaper accounts filled with errors of omission and comission as well as errors of logic and improper reasoning.

Yes the backers of the cop-killer have really gotten whacked out. I guess that this thread belongs there too. I think I will suggest that.

34 posted on 08/18/2002 10:40:38 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: CIB-173RDABN
New Mexico has weigh stations on the freeways also.
35 posted on 08/18/2002 10:41:27 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: chance33_98
Police say most business owners appreciate a police presence on the premises, but not the Flying J Truck Stop

Total BS. What business owner wants police inspections on their property?

36 posted on 08/18/2002 10:42:55 AM PDT by Cagey
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
Now just watch out for the steroid infested nuts to kick your doors in for speaking your mind.

Steriods are certainly something to consider when reading about instances that go haywire as well as medications both legal and illegal or even some cases ordinary over-the-counter food supplements.

The phrase "steriod infested nuts" is unnecessarily derogatory.

It is technically more accurate and descriptive to say Official or individual under the influence of steriods, or medication or mind altering substance.

Best regards,

37 posted on 08/18/2002 10:48:56 AM PDT by Copernicus
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Yes the backers of the cop-killer have really gotten whacked out. I guess that this thread belongs there too. I think I will suggest that.

If you continue to use phrases such as "cop killer", "foaming at the mouth" and "whacked out" I will have no choice but to rescind my offer to discuss this or any other issue with you.

Your choice.

Best regards,

38 posted on 08/18/2002 10:57:08 AM PDT by Copernicus
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To: Larry Lucido
That is the cop's story....and they're sticking to it.
39 posted on 08/18/2002 11:04:31 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500
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To: chance33_98
I support and co-operate reasonable law enforcement. And, I would support and co-operate with these reasonable efforts.
40 posted on 08/18/2002 11:05:01 AM PDT by Barnacle
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