I asked you how Iran would take Bahrain....you didnt reply.
"The Strait of Hormuz needs to be nagigated by all US ships, and the coast of Iran runs the length of it. Hundreds and Hundred of Miles, with a very narrow and difficult turn. The US could be attacked at any stage."
And the vessels already in the Persian Gulf and in the Arabian Gulf? How would they be destroyed? How would their response be defeated? Or is it your assertion that the US navy would line their ships up one after another and send them into Iranian fire while holding their own?
"The US has a powerful airforce I will admit, but when you are in someone elses backyard, you need to be carful, or do you forget the US Cole was attacked with just a simple rubber boat, so no need to out-manouver anyone."
What? One has nothing to do with the other...you acknowledged that the US air force is supreme and then offer up some high school augury to erase speaking anymore and exposing your lack of operational knowledge.
"You do not fight the larger more powerful enemy (US) at its mode of battle, but the one of your choosing, obviously you have not read Sun Tzu"
Oi...you cant be this dense. If you just abandon your position now, I will fully understand. To continue to talk in vague admonitions and Hokie forboding is only making you look foolish.
"These people are not interested in consequenses, they would be in a holy war and prepared to die for their course, whereas Allied troops, would be trying there best to keep out of arms way."
You mean the same way the Syrians were forced to chain their soldiers to Anti-Tank and Anti-Aircraft guns lining the approaches to Damascus because they were fleeing in light of Israeli advance? An asinine, disrespectful sideline comment that doesnt require futher consideration.
"They would not attack with tanks or armies the oil fields of Saudi, but would use WMB as I mentioned, so would be un-usable by anyone for a long time."
Really....how about 24 to 36 hours depending upon the wind direction in the AO. Neither has Nuclear weapons and those are the only ones that would accomplish what you claim.
"Like wise the Strait of Hormuz leaves, Bahrain, Qatar or any of the emirates just minutes away from attack and they are so small, they would be obliterated in matter of hours."
Again, by what? Show me the Iranian military equipment that will bring this about? Show me the Iranian military equipment that can defeat American tactics.
"Iran is too large to hit all the airfilds or missle sites in a matter of hours, once the attack began, the missiles would start flowing."
Missiles tipped with what?
"The US and its allies taking over the oilfields of Iran and Iraq, well my friend, we would then see the true meaning of the word "Jihad" and I would recommend investing in a company that sells bodybags, as we would need them by the ship load."
There is already a shipload of something right here....it's called a BS from a guy who has absolutely no relative military or combat experience. Who does not know the combat capabilities of the forces involved or the logistical requirements to accomplish what he proposes is remotely possible.
You really should humble up and walk away. You are light years out of your league here.
Neither Iran or Iraq posses Nuclear weapons or the capability to effectively deliver them. What amount of chemical weapons they do have will remain where they are as a result of the absolute certainty that the government who employs them first and the popuation it rules will be on the receiving end of a Nuclear response. Neither has the ability to take or hold foreign terrain in light of the American presence that already exists in the region.
Air Supremacy is already in American hands.
No sizable armoured force [A requirement in invading another country] can move from Iraq or Iran and not be destroyed the moment it is percieved as a threat. No Iranian or Iraqi Air force could take flight and effectively engage American aircraft or air defenses. For any ground force to make an effective assault across any border means they would first have to lay down comm and bring up their supporting artillery...all of which we can see...once Iran or Iraq did this they would be met with an American counter move to negate what they intend to do.
Those are the baseline realities that you cannot argue against.
Those are the baseline realities that decapitate your assertions.
I dont mind people brainstorming....it is healthy....but to brainstorm you have to be competent in the subject you are discussing. To this point, you have not been. You have no facts...only Sun Tzu quotes and thirty year old examples of military desperation.
You continue to disregard the absolute that if either Iran or Iraq employed biological or chemical weapons the US response would effectively end the debate and the conflict.