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Air-breathing jet flies at 5,000mph
Electronic Telegraph ^ | 17/08/2002 | Roger Highfield, Science Editor

Posted on 08/16/2002 6:28:57 PM PDT by aculeus

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1 posted on 08/16/2002 6:28:57 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
Does this mean that we can make the jump into hyperspace without a Wookie?
2 posted on 08/16/2002 6:33:48 PM PDT by pbear8
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RELATED ARTICLE: More Trust, Less Cash

It takes a special kind of propulsion system to boost a vehicle from runway to space at thousands of miles an hour. The rocket-based combined cycle engine, or RBCC, would employ rocket, "ramjet" and "scramjet" engines to thrust hypersonic planes to the highest reaches of Earth's atmosphere.

Rocket engines are the lightest type of engine per pound of thrust, but they must carry both fuel and oxygen. But carrying thousands of pounds of liquid oxygen into space is costly about $10,000 per pound. To provide lowercost access to space, engineers are looking to advanced types of "airbreathing" jet engines.

Conventional jet engines develop thrust by compressing air with spinning turbine blades. In a "ramjet" engine, there are no moving parts. Instead, air is compressed by the forward speed of the plane itself. The air passes through a funnel-like chamber that slows it to subsonic speeds, allowing fuel combustion.

Ramjets have been used for years to propel missiles and some of the world's fastest planes, including the SR-71 "Blackbird" spy. But ramjets cannot operate much beyond Mach 5, so the next generation of jet engines -- scram jets are being tested for use at the so-called "hypersonic" range. In a scramjet ("supersonic combustion ramjet"), incoming air is slowed down slightly but remains supersonic.

Hypersonic planes would use rockets to get them to supersonic speeds, ramjets to reach Mach 5 or 6 and scramjets to cruise at speeds of Mach 10 to 12 or to turn on the rockets again and go into orbit. The ramjets and scramjets would be fueled by liquid hydrogen, the highest-performance fuel available.

A full-scale version of an RBCC engine under development by Aerojet, a Sacramento aerospace company, would be 50 feet long, 20 feet wide and weigh 12,000 pounds. It would burn about 1,000 pounds of propellant per second but generate as much as 400,000 pounds of thrust.

3 posted on 08/16/2002 6:41:07 PM PDT by mjp
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To: aculeus
Mr Scott...we'll be going to warp speed.
4 posted on 08/16/2002 6:41:56 PM PDT by xrp
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To: pbear8
The Wookie is running for Governor in Florida. ;-)
5 posted on 08/16/2002 6:42:25 PM PDT by SubMareener
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My husband says those Gilette triple edged blades are great. Perhaps someone should tell Janet.
6 posted on 08/16/2002 6:46:44 PM PDT by pbear8
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The Wookie is running for Governor in Florida. ;-)

Sir... I've seen a Wookie, I've known Wookies, she's no Wookie.

She's ..... words fail me.

7 posted on 08/16/2002 6:48:22 PM PDT by ken in texas
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"She's ..... words fail me."

a "democrat"

8 posted on 08/16/2002 6:59:48 PM PDT by hoot2
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh....you said the "D" word
9 posted on 08/16/2002 7:02:14 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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It has taken 50 years since it was conceived to actually build a working model of a scramjet engine. I predict it is going to be a very long time before this is translated into a practical aircraft of any kind. The likeliest use is a hypersonic cruise missile.
10 posted on 08/16/2002 7:16:13 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: SubMareener
No, that's the Wookies uncle.
11 posted on 08/16/2002 7:24:26 PM PDT by Guillermo
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To: Looking for Diogenes
>>>I predict it is going to take a long time to make a working model out of this technology<<<


But what if Newt Gingrich's prize idea is implemented? Government contracts encourage lethargy, inflation, and jealous protectionism. Adequate prizes, on the other hand, inspire numerous companies to compete as efficiently as possible. For more on Newt's insightful idea:

http://www.spaceprojects.com/prizes
12 posted on 08/16/2002 7:28:54 PM PDT by End The Hypocrisy
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13 posted on 08/16/2002 7:30:20 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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Notice how NASA, despite its $15 billion dollar annual budget (thanks to us taxpayers) had relatively NOTHING to do with this scramjet breakthrough? The reasons why NASA will remain so mediocre are numerous, and discussed at the following politically CONSERVATIVE watchdog website:

http://www.NASAWatch.INFO

Let's privatize as much of it as the pork-loving Congress, and the greedy government contractors will allow...
14 posted on 08/16/2002 7:32:08 PM PDT by End The Hypocrisy
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Hell the Air Force has had scram jets for years. It's called the Aurora and does about 6,000 mph. Because of it's design the wind drafts along the plane allow for external combustion and is so powerful the engine turns off and on. Gives a sound like tearing metal. I think the Air Force likes the Aussies talking about this plane because they still don't admit the B-17 existed. Ok, a little exageration.
15 posted on 08/16/2002 7:32:57 PM PDT by jwh_Denver
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To: End The Hypocrisy
I neglected to mention the worst element of all at NASA: the bureaucrats, who are jealous as heck of competition and who protect their niche most deceptively (as http://www.spaceprojects.com/Mir illustrates).
16 posted on 08/16/2002 7:33:38 PM PDT by End The Hypocrisy
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Adequate prizes, on the other hand, inspire numerous companies to compete as efficiently as possible.

In the past most such prizes have been privately funded. I think that is a great idea.

17 posted on 08/16/2002 7:37:36 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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How about a baby-sized, Howitzer launched/boosted, extreme-range artillery shell? (using the scram jet at the end of the flight) My God, the sound alone should get immediate surrender.
18 posted on 08/16/2002 7:38:51 PM PDT by Howie
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To: Looking for Diogenes
You're right. Fortunately though, reformers inside of NASA have tried to make it possible for at least some of NASA's billions to bo towards funding prizes, as http://www.spaceprojects.com/prizes documents.
19 posted on 08/16/2002 7:39:26 PM PDT by End The Hypocrisy
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To: aculeus
Quote of the Day by DWSUWF
20 posted on 08/16/2002 7:40:57 PM PDT by RJayneJ
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