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To: Behind Liberal Lines
No, that's not it. And we are not talking about the destruction of life or property, for which there is something tangible lost. Here, we are only talking about a feeling of disgust one has after learning of what happened. The only harm here is the knowledge that it happened.

It's just in this case, if people really believed their own bullsh!t, it would have been better if the two lovers weren't caught.

No one would have known about anything so they would not have been upset over the thought of their sanctuary being defiled.

Yet the very believers who are concerned about defilement would surely have the confidence that their deity would have dealt with anyone who might engage in such activity, whether or not they got caught. The comment "I'm glad they got caught" suggests a lack of confidence that they would have been dealt with by a higher authority.
50 posted on 08/16/2002 10:29:35 AM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: BikerNYC
..it would have been better if the two lovers weren't caught.

Lovers? What a distorted way to display their love and respect for each other.

59 posted on 08/16/2002 10:35:10 AM PDT by Cagey
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To: BikerNYC
It's just in this case, if people really believed their own bullsh!t, it would have been better if the two lovers weren't caught.

Lovers? Nice spin. Sheesh.

60 posted on 08/16/2002 10:35:17 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: BikerNYC
The comment "I'm glad they got caught" suggests a lack of confidence that they would have been dealt with by a higher authority.

Actually it doesn't since God Almighty through His word commanded Christians to not associate with heathens and to remove them from their midst peacefully

62 posted on 08/16/2002 10:35:59 AM PDT by billbears
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To: BikerNYC
No, that's not it. And we are not talking about the destruction of life or property, for which there is something tangible lost.

However, almost every drunk driver (not involved in an MVA or PI at least) tries to justify their actions by the same logic: if I hadn't been caught no one would have known and no one would have cared.

Here, we are only talking about a feeling of disgust one has after learning of what happened. The only harm here is the knowledge that it happened.

Again, one could make that argument about any public lewdness. If nobody happened to look there would be no harm. So using your logic no one should be punished.

Furthermore, as noted previously, the entire point of this stunt was the recognized risk of getting caught. Therefore it is rather disingenuous to argue that it would have been okay if they hadn't been. That was pretty much the point.

63 posted on 08/16/2002 10:36:32 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: BikerNYC
The only harm here is the knowledge that it happened. It's just in this case, if people really believed their own bullsh!t, it would have been better if the two lovers weren't caught.

Since it was being broadcast live your argument falls flat on it's face.

The only bull here is yours.

They were not lovers but one a whore and the other a whoremonger engaged in fornication for money and fame.

64 posted on 08/16/2002 10:37:47 AM PDT by Between the Lines
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To: BikerNYC
...it would have been better if the two lovers ... These degenerates were not making love. They were having sex. Think about it.
92 posted on 08/16/2002 10:53:54 AM PDT by It's me
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To: BikerNYC
Okay, according to your argument, we should let all murderers go free because God will punish them? You give bikers a BAD name.
93 posted on 08/16/2002 10:54:30 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
So what's new in New York? I am not surprised at
anything that happens in that Liberal Town!
Well.. except California.... they would have stood
up an cheered out there. John Rocker had a point,
didn't he! Barf
96 posted on 08/16/2002 10:56:18 AM PDT by HarryH
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To: BikerNYC
Yet the very believers who are concerned about defilement would surely have the confidence that their deity would have dealt with anyone who might engage in such activity, whether or not they got caught.

Typical "libertarian" lack of respect for others' private property rights.
Yes, a church IS private property.
It would be a serendipitous stroke of justice if stangers wandered into your home from off the street and performed lewd acts in the middle of your living room in front of your wife and children.
Who gives a hoot about YOUR private property rights?
There "not hurting" anybody, right dude???

130 posted on 08/16/2002 11:17:27 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: BikerNYC
"it would have been better if the two lovers weren't caught."

Lovers? I don't know what they were motivated by, but I guarantee you that love didn't have a thing to do with it.

223 posted on 08/16/2002 12:22:20 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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