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Top Republicans Break With Bush on Iraq Strategy
The New York Times ^ | 08/16/2002 | TODD S. PURDUM and PATRICK E. TYLER

Posted on 08/15/2002 7:30:56 PM PDT by Pokey78

WASHINGTON, Aug. 15 — Leading Republicans from Congress, the State Department and past administrations have begun to break ranks with President Bush over his administration's high-profile planning for war with Iraq, saying the administration has neither adequately prepared for military action nor made the case that it is needed.

These senior Republicans include former Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger and Brent Scowcroft, the first President Bush's national security adviser. All say they favor the eventual removal of Saddam Hussein, but some say they are concerned that Mr. Bush is proceeding in a way that risks alienating allies, creating greater instability in the Middle East, and harming long-term American interests. They add that the administration has not shown that Iraq poses an urgent threat to the United States.

At the same time, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, who summoned Mr. Kissinger for a meeting on Tuesday, and his advisers have decided that they should focus international discussion on how Iraq would be governed after Mr. Hussein — not only in an effort to assure a democracy but as a way to outflank administration hawks and slow the rush to war, which many in the department oppose.

"For those of us who don't see an invasion as an article of faith but as simply a policy option, there is a feeling that you need to give great consideration to what comes after, and that unless you're prepared to follow it through, then you shouldn't begin it," one senior administration official involved in foreign policy said today.

In an opinion article published today in The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Scowcroft, who helped build the broad international coalition against Iraq in the Persian Gulf war, warned that "an attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardize, if not destroy, the global counter-terrorist campaign we have undertaken." An attack might provoke Iraq to use chemical or biological weapons in an effort to trigger war between Israel and the Arab world, he said.

His criticism has particular meaning for Mr. Bush because Mr. Scowcroft was virtually a member of the Bush family during the first President Bush's term and has maintained close relations with the former president.

Senator Chuck Hagel, Republican of Nebraska said that Secretary Powell and his deputy, Richard L. Armitage, had recently told President Bush of their concerns about the risks and complexities of a military campaign against Iraq, especially without broad international support. But senior White House and State Department officials said they were unaware of any such meeting.

Also today, Lawrence S. Eagleburger, who was briefly secretary of state for Mr. Bush's father, told ABC News that unless Mr. Hussein "has his hand on a trigger that is for a weapon of mass destruction, and our intelligence is clear, I don't know why we have to do it now, when all our allies are opposed to it."

Last week, Representative Dick Armey, the House majority leader, raised similar concerns.

The comments by Mr. Scowcroft and others in the Republican foreign policy establishment appeared to be a loosely coordinated effort. Mr. Scowcroft first spoke out publicly 10 days ago on the CBS News program "Face the Nation."

In an opinion article published on Monday in The Washington Post, Mr. Kissinger made a long and complex argument about the international complications of any military campaign, writing that American policy "will be judged by how the aftermath of the military operation is handled politically," a statement that seems to play well with the State Department's strategy.

"Military intervention should be attempted only if we are willing to sustain such an effort for however long it is needed," he added. Far from ruling out military intervention, Mr. Kissinger said the challenge was to build a careful case that the threat of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction calls for creation of a new international security framework in which pre-emptive action may sometimes be justified.

Through his office in New York, Mr. Kissinger relayed a message that his meeting with Secretary Powell had been scheduled before the publication of his article and was unrelated. But a State Department official said Secretary Powell had wanted Mr. Kissinger's advice on how to influence administration thinking on both Iraq and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

In The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Scowcroft wrote that if the United States "were seen to be turning our backs" on the Israeli-Palestinian dispute "in order to go after Iraq, there would be an explosion of outrage against us."

He added: "There is a virtual consensus in the world against an attack on Iraq at this time. So long as that sentiment persists, it would require the U.S. to pursue a virtual go-it-alone strategy against Iraq, making any military operations correspondingly more difficult and expensive."

Richard N. Perle, a former Reagan administration official and one of the leading hawks who has been orchestrating an urgent approach to attacking Iraq, said today that Mr. Scowcroft's arguments were misguided and naïve.

"I think Brent just got it wrong," he said by telephone from France. "The failure to take on Saddam after what the president said would produce such a collapse of confidence in the president that it would set back the war on terrorism."

Mr. Perle added, "I think it is naïve to believe that we can produce results in the 50-year-old dispute between the Israelis and the Arabs, and therefore this is an excuse for not taking action."

Senator Hagel, who was among the earliest voices to question Mr. Bush's approach to Iraq, said today that the Central Intelligence Agency had "absolutely no evidence" that Iraq possesses or will soon possess nuclear weapons.

He said he shared Mr. Kissinger's concern that Mr. Bush's policy of pre-emptive strikes at governments armed with weapons of mass destruction could induce India to attack Pakistan and could create the political cover for Israel to expel Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza.

"You can take the country into a war pretty fast," Mr. Hagel said, "but you can't get out as quickly, and the public needs to know what the risks are."

He added, "Maybe Mr. Perle would like to be in the first wave of those who go into Baghdad."

For months, the State Department's approach has been to focus on how to build a government in Iraq.

After meetings here last week involving Iraqi opposition groups and administration officials, one official said today that there was now consensus in the State Department that if more discussion was focused on the challenge of creating a post-Hussein government, "that would start broaching the question of what kind of assistance you are going to need from the international community to assure this structure endures — read between the lines, how long the occupation will have to be."

Such discussions, the official added, would have a sobering effect on the war-planners.


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To: AIG
Actually India has a larger middle class than China. The past is not always a guide to the future. The only thing that bails out China to some degree is the discipline of its people and Confucian traditions that are more amenable to the entreprenurial ethos and climate vis a vis India. But in the information age, that will not be enough. A freeer society like India is going to gain on China rather rapidly now.
261 posted on 08/15/2002 11:06:53 PM PDT by Torie
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To: kdoxxx
I am not a feminist. That is an empty perspective. It doesn't do anything for me. But I am for equality for all human being before the bar of an impartial judiciary and law that prescribes an equal protection of rights, including property rights, for all citizens, including both genders.
262 posted on 08/15/2002 11:09:08 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
England's had a long history of "English common law" and other institutions which made its transition to democracy easier. China has no legal tradition, which is all the more reason why China can't become a mirror image of America or England anytime soon. The best chance is to allow capitalism to grow, which by its very nature requires rules and regulations and is the best "teacher" of rule of law ever invented. Look at Russia. Did merely imposing a nominal democratic political structure on it make its society and culture suddenly law-abiding?

China is merely trying to rise out of Third World living conditions, but some paranoid people think this amounts to "fascism." But since when did wanting to rise out of Third World living conditions become a crime in Americans' eyes?
263 posted on 08/15/2002 11:09:23 PM PDT by AIG
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To: big ern
"alienating allies" means in Kissinger talk, "pissing off China, where our corporations have invested billions, and import cheap stuff from, at huge mark ups..."
264 posted on 08/15/2002 11:09:40 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
Better than being one of India's poor illiterates, which is about 50% of India's population, despite 50 years of democracy.
265 posted on 08/15/2002 11:10:21 PM PDT by AIG
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To: jonefab
A very revealing analysis. Thanks for posting it for all of us to ponder, and I hope that many or most will come to the same conclusion and for the same reasons.
266 posted on 08/15/2002 11:12:10 PM PDT by Sir Charles
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To: Torie
China's already #1 in cell phones, refridgerators, light bulbs, air conditioners, elevators, and various other product categories, even ahead of the US, let alone India. China is already #2 in PC's behind the US.
267 posted on 08/15/2002 11:12:59 PM PDT by AIG
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To: AIG
Whats the difference than being one of China's 1.28 billion poor illiterates?
268 posted on 08/15/2002 11:13:23 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: Pokey78
I guess they want GW to sit back & ignore saddam, just like billyboy ignored bin laden!!
269 posted on 08/15/2002 11:14:19 PM PDT by blondee123
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To: AIG
China's already #1 in cell phones

That one does surprise me, since it seems everybody in the US has one. Care to back it up? In any event, you are missing my points, almost all of them I think.

270 posted on 08/15/2002 11:15:23 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
For India, it's hard to change a majority-poor population into a majority middle-class population overnight, especially when the average Indian presidency lasts just 18 months and there is chronic legislative gridlock. Economics use a $3,000-$4,000 per-capita GDP benchmark at the point at which a country's economy starts to get the appearance of a more advanced world economy, and India is still far from that.
271 posted on 08/15/2002 11:15:25 PM PDT by AIG
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To: maui_hawaii
China's literacy rate is over 90%
272 posted on 08/15/2002 11:15:51 PM PDT by AIG
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To: AIG
China convienently excludes the peasants when they do their economic measurements, and hence the economic 'boom' is only a measurement of the cream of the crop, in certain places, and even then, its inflated. China's boom came because the US was hunting for cheap labor combined with a President who wanted to save the Communist Party from people still pissed off about 6-4.
274 posted on 08/15/2002 11:17:37 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: weikel
Kissinger is right Saudi Arabia and Iran are the main enemy not secular Iraq.

Nope he's wrong. Iraq is the pivot point. Iran is the only Islamic state in the region that is moving towards democracy and the government of Iran is struggling to hold onto power. We will have to deal with the strong possibility of a desperate Iranian government attempting to aid the neighboring Iraq. If we install a democratic regime in Iraq, Iran will topple like a house of cards. Saudi Arabia on the other hand is ruled by a monarch who has for years walked a line between friendly realtions with the US and placating a populace that is increasingly extreme Fundamentalist and hates the west. Civil war in Saudi Arabian is also very possible.

275 posted on 08/15/2002 11:18:15 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Right_in_Virginia
It may be time to up Scrowcroft's meds

ROFLMBO!

276 posted on 08/15/2002 11:18:51 PM PDT by blondee123
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To: Torie
"China's mobile phone market, the world's biggest with more than 176 million cellular users." -- Latecomer Sony Ericsson Dives Into China
277 posted on 08/15/2002 11:19:35 PM PDT by AIG
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To: AIG
Ok then, they are dirt poor, but know how to read.
278 posted on 08/15/2002 11:19:54 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: AIG
This is from the Cia factbook:

India: GDP - per capita: purchasing power parity - $2,200 (2000 est.)

China: GDP - per capita: purchasing power parity - $3,600 (2000 est.)

I suspect the margin will erode, and that it is already in the process of doing so.

279 posted on 08/15/2002 11:20:52 PM PDT by Torie
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To: maui_hawaii
How did China's "cream of the crop" come into existence in the first place? Was it because China's economy has grown so fast in the past 20 years? By the same token, China's middle-class will add another 100-200 mil. into its ranks in the next 20 years. Remember, economics is a process.
280 posted on 08/15/2002 11:22:12 PM PDT by AIG
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