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Top Republicans Break With Bush on Iraq Strategy
The New York Times ^ | 08/16/2002 | TODD S. PURDUM and PATRICK E. TYLER

Posted on 08/15/2002 7:30:56 PM PDT by Pokey78

WASHINGTON, Aug. 15 — Leading Republicans from Congress, the State Department and past administrations have begun to break ranks with President Bush over his administration's high-profile planning for war with Iraq, saying the administration has neither adequately prepared for military action nor made the case that it is needed.

These senior Republicans include former Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger and Brent Scowcroft, the first President Bush's national security adviser. All say they favor the eventual removal of Saddam Hussein, but some say they are concerned that Mr. Bush is proceeding in a way that risks alienating allies, creating greater instability in the Middle East, and harming long-term American interests. They add that the administration has not shown that Iraq poses an urgent threat to the United States.

At the same time, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, who summoned Mr. Kissinger for a meeting on Tuesday, and his advisers have decided that they should focus international discussion on how Iraq would be governed after Mr. Hussein — not only in an effort to assure a democracy but as a way to outflank administration hawks and slow the rush to war, which many in the department oppose.

"For those of us who don't see an invasion as an article of faith but as simply a policy option, there is a feeling that you need to give great consideration to what comes after, and that unless you're prepared to follow it through, then you shouldn't begin it," one senior administration official involved in foreign policy said today.

In an opinion article published today in The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Scowcroft, who helped build the broad international coalition against Iraq in the Persian Gulf war, warned that "an attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardize, if not destroy, the global counter-terrorist campaign we have undertaken." An attack might provoke Iraq to use chemical or biological weapons in an effort to trigger war between Israel and the Arab world, he said.

His criticism has particular meaning for Mr. Bush because Mr. Scowcroft was virtually a member of the Bush family during the first President Bush's term and has maintained close relations with the former president.

Senator Chuck Hagel, Republican of Nebraska said that Secretary Powell and his deputy, Richard L. Armitage, had recently told President Bush of their concerns about the risks and complexities of a military campaign against Iraq, especially without broad international support. But senior White House and State Department officials said they were unaware of any such meeting.

Also today, Lawrence S. Eagleburger, who was briefly secretary of state for Mr. Bush's father, told ABC News that unless Mr. Hussein "has his hand on a trigger that is for a weapon of mass destruction, and our intelligence is clear, I don't know why we have to do it now, when all our allies are opposed to it."

Last week, Representative Dick Armey, the House majority leader, raised similar concerns.

The comments by Mr. Scowcroft and others in the Republican foreign policy establishment appeared to be a loosely coordinated effort. Mr. Scowcroft first spoke out publicly 10 days ago on the CBS News program "Face the Nation."

In an opinion article published on Monday in The Washington Post, Mr. Kissinger made a long and complex argument about the international complications of any military campaign, writing that American policy "will be judged by how the aftermath of the military operation is handled politically," a statement that seems to play well with the State Department's strategy.

"Military intervention should be attempted only if we are willing to sustain such an effort for however long it is needed," he added. Far from ruling out military intervention, Mr. Kissinger said the challenge was to build a careful case that the threat of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction calls for creation of a new international security framework in which pre-emptive action may sometimes be justified.

Through his office in New York, Mr. Kissinger relayed a message that his meeting with Secretary Powell had been scheduled before the publication of his article and was unrelated. But a State Department official said Secretary Powell had wanted Mr. Kissinger's advice on how to influence administration thinking on both Iraq and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

In The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Scowcroft wrote that if the United States "were seen to be turning our backs" on the Israeli-Palestinian dispute "in order to go after Iraq, there would be an explosion of outrage against us."

He added: "There is a virtual consensus in the world against an attack on Iraq at this time. So long as that sentiment persists, it would require the U.S. to pursue a virtual go-it-alone strategy against Iraq, making any military operations correspondingly more difficult and expensive."

Richard N. Perle, a former Reagan administration official and one of the leading hawks who has been orchestrating an urgent approach to attacking Iraq, said today that Mr. Scowcroft's arguments were misguided and naïve.

"I think Brent just got it wrong," he said by telephone from France. "The failure to take on Saddam after what the president said would produce such a collapse of confidence in the president that it would set back the war on terrorism."

Mr. Perle added, "I think it is naïve to believe that we can produce results in the 50-year-old dispute between the Israelis and the Arabs, and therefore this is an excuse for not taking action."

Senator Hagel, who was among the earliest voices to question Mr. Bush's approach to Iraq, said today that the Central Intelligence Agency had "absolutely no evidence" that Iraq possesses or will soon possess nuclear weapons.

He said he shared Mr. Kissinger's concern that Mr. Bush's policy of pre-emptive strikes at governments armed with weapons of mass destruction could induce India to attack Pakistan and could create the political cover for Israel to expel Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza.

"You can take the country into a war pretty fast," Mr. Hagel said, "but you can't get out as quickly, and the public needs to know what the risks are."

He added, "Maybe Mr. Perle would like to be in the first wave of those who go into Baghdad."

For months, the State Department's approach has been to focus on how to build a government in Iraq.

After meetings here last week involving Iraqi opposition groups and administration officials, one official said today that there was now consensus in the State Department that if more discussion was focused on the challenge of creating a post-Hussein government, "that would start broaching the question of what kind of assistance you are going to need from the international community to assure this structure endures — read between the lines, how long the occupation will have to be."

Such discussions, the official added, would have a sobering effect on the war-planners.


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To: Texasforever
If one of the oldest civilizations on earth is still in the development stages, I think that, possibly, it needs to rethink its development model.

Basically. There's this weird half-a**ed notion over there that you can have your cake and eat it too - all the benefits of a market economy, along with all the benefits of a command-and-control economy, but sooner or later, something's going to give. In the meantime, you get the Chinese Army running nightclubs in Shanghai, and the sorts of oligopolies of wealthy Party members that all truly corrupt regimes exhibit before long.

242 posted on 08/15/2002 10:48:32 PM PDT by general_re
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To: AIG
You just told me that in Asia they (democracies) are all jokes.
243 posted on 08/15/2002 10:48:45 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
No, authoritarian government is better for developing countries, while democracy is better for already-rich countries, for the simple reason that developing countries' first priority is rapid economic development and authoritarian governments simply can enact needed economic reforms much more rapidly and expeditiously than the democratic legislative process has proven capable (plagued by gridlock in Third World counries).
244 posted on 08/15/2002 10:49:54 PM PDT by AIG
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To: Torie
They are young democracies and thus immature and behave crazily. They're jokes.
245 posted on 08/15/2002 10:50:59 PM PDT by AIG
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To: kdoxxx
In China? Absolutely. They are a penchant for killing off female babies at present, among other things, but beyond that it is a total male chavinist realm, almost akin to some Islamic fundamentalist societies. But that was not where I was going.
246 posted on 08/15/2002 10:51:21 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
They can't even agree on who is going to be the next president, yet they have 'no administrative gridlock'...
247 posted on 08/15/2002 10:52:04 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: AIG
Why are you so sure that authoritarian efficient capitalism (and in China capitalism isn't by a long shot efficient) leads to democracy rather than fascism?
248 posted on 08/15/2002 10:53:19 PM PDT by Torie
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To: maui_hawaii
Compared to India which despite 50 years of democracy has yet to enact basic labor and land economic reforms, China has no gridlock.
249 posted on 08/15/2002 10:53:47 PM PDT by AIG
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To: Torie
China is a joke. They can't even get dictatorship right.
250 posted on 08/15/2002 10:54:26 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: AIG
I suspect India will overtake China in the next 50 years unless China fundamentally changes. That is my long term prediction.
251 posted on 08/15/2002 10:55:17 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Election 2000, Chinese style, except no one gets to vote....
252 posted on 08/15/2002 10:57:12 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: Torie
Rich people, the middle class prefer democracy. On the other hand, poor people prefer socialism. Imagine if the US today had a majority-poor population. Wouldn't Gephardt and Daschle be perpetually voted into office? But if you have a majority-middle class population (developed rapidly under the guidance of one-party rule enacting economic reforms quickly), then the middle class votes in pro-capitalist politicians to sustain and support the capitalist system that made them wealthy in the first place. Democracy is nothing but a means developed by middle-classes to protect its own economic interests. At some point, any king or monarch becomes too tyrannical for the middle-class's taste so they kick out the king/fascist and adopt democracy instead. This is what happened in America. America's colonies grew rich but when the king started to tax them too much, they rebelled ("No taxation without representation!)
253 posted on 08/15/2002 10:58:36 PM PDT by AIG
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To: maui_hawaii
Today's Third World republics can't get democracy right because they're obviously not keeping up with China, which is authoritarian, the supposedly "weaker" system.
254 posted on 08/15/2002 11:00:17 PM PDT by AIG
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To: Torie
The last 50 years of India's history wouldn't support your position. In all likelihood, by 2020, another 100-200 mil. Chinese will have achieved middle-class status while another generation of Indians continue to wallow in poverty and illiteracy.
255 posted on 08/15/2002 11:01:57 PM PDT by AIG
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To: Pokey78
These senior Republicans include former Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger and Brent Scowcroft, the first President Bush's national security adviser. All say they favor the eventual removal of Saddam Hussein, but some say they are concerned that Mr. Bush is proceeding in a way that risks alienating allies, creating greater instability in the Middle East, and harming long-term American interests.

they are concerned that Mr. Bush is proceeding in a way that risks alienating allies

That really means "Mr. (notice how they call him Mr. Bush and not President Bush, f-ing scumbags) is going to screw up all our money making ventures with our Eurotrash patrons.

256 posted on 08/15/2002 11:02:30 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: AIG
England had an independent judiciary, and an independent parliament by the 1500's to a fair degree. You still aren't dealing with the fascism bit. Read up on Nazi Germany. That strikes me as a more apt parallel for China if if is unlucky, and continues down the path that it is going. What makes China so dangerous is that the jingoistic and fascistic impulses have popular middle class support.
257 posted on 08/15/2002 11:03:33 PM PDT by Torie
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To: AIG
Chinese style: you question us, embarrass us, challenge us, think the wrong way, or protest us, we will run you over with tanks, shoot you, persecute you, and we will end your life, and no one will care. Now you better take your 600 rmb per month, put a smile on your face, shut up and live with it. Or else. We are after all nice to you and represent you...

What a system.

258 posted on 08/15/2002 11:06:09 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: UbIwerks
"All the News That Fits, We Print."
259 posted on 08/15/2002 11:06:17 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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