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How Stable Is America?
FredonEverything.net ^ | 8/09/02 | Fred Reed

Posted on 08/15/2002 6:32:48 PM PDT by M 91 u2 K

How stable, one may wonder, is the United States?

The answer would seem to be, "Exceedingly." The country has had no coups, attempted coups, or revolutions. Our only civil war came over a century ago. Political stability has contributed mightily to American success. We have avoided the internal wars, shifting governments, and dictators that have plagued the political adolescents of Europe.

Yet we are not a happy country. Below the surface lie anger and hostility that seem to have no resolution. Strains exist that we do not, may not, talk about. We hide these problems, and hide from them, hoping they will go away. Perhaps they will. Perhaps they won't.

The odds, I suppose, are against an explosion. It is as hard to imagine violent change in the United States as it was, fifteen years ago, to imagine that the Soviet Union would spontaneously disassemble. (Part of Marxist theory was that government would one day wither away. It did.) On the other hand, the country seems to me to be quietly, growingly-angry.

I wonder.

If, as a debating exercise, I were to argue for the possibility of cataclysmic upheaval, of race war, revolution, a coup, or widespread civil unrest, I would make my case as follows:

Our problems are grave. For example, we have a black minority of about thirteen percent that seethes with anger, does not seem to be assimilating, and grows in numbers. Blacks quietly gain political control of more and more cities. While their standard of living rises, their degree of allegiance to the larger society does not.

We have an equally large and growing Latino minority. To what extent Latinos will assimilate is not clear. Their children do poorly in school, which does not bode well. If they turn into a self-aware group in opposition to white America, into brown blacks, we will face a quarter of the population, and rising, hostile to the mainstream (and in all likelihood hostile to each other).

Whites back passively away, frightened in their own country, moving deeper into the suburbs, acceding to every demand. The others advance, knowing that the advantage is theirs. But it may be that this just raises the stakes should conflict come.

The racial divide is by itself every bit enough to cause disaster.

Profound division, and profound anger, permeate white America itself. Some of it follows the fault lines of partisan politics, but partakes of something deeper. It is not politics as usual. The antagonism is between the traditionally American and what for brevity may be called the politically correct. It verges on hatred.

The dispute among whites is not about details, not about the fine tuning of this or that policy. At stake are crucial, emotionally explosive matters such as the de-Christianization of the country, the ever-tightening governmental control of behavior, social decay, the replacement of merit by racial and sexual patronage, the forced mixing of racial and ethnic minorities that don't want to mix, a Latino invasion resented intensely by a majority of whites, and the relentless imposition of values abominated by the traditional America.

And there is the curious hostility between men and women. It won't erupt, but it aggravates tension. When instincts are thwarted, the limbic temperature rises. Generalized anger has a way, sooner or later, of focusing itself.

Historically, America's elastic democracy has prevented revolt by yielding to pressure. If women decided they wanted to major in chemical engineering, the country said, fine, sign here. Assimilation has been a chief instrument. If the Irish were held in disregard in one generation, in the next they moved up, blended, became generic Americans, and ceased being resentful or resented.

But-are today's resentments thus eradicable? What happens when groups don't assimilate, when nonnegotiable values of one group are inherently incompatible with those of another group?

Mechanisms of change appear to be lacking. We have two essentially identical political parties that refuse to address the aforementioned crucial questions: immigration, race, etc. Instead of looking for solutions, we hold the lid on by compulsion and censorship. It could prove dangerous. Think of Yugoslavia.

By stifling dissent, are we, as many think, giving our problems time to disappear? Or are we coiling a spring?

Further, we have cornered ourselves. The increasing centralization of government, and the increasing scope of its jurisdiction, make retreat impossible. In 1900 a town in Montana could run its schools as it liked. Washington and New York had neither the manpower, the communications, nor the interest to intervene. True, Montanans then probably had even less influence over Washington than they do now. Crucially, Washington had less over them.

Today remote bureaucracies monitor small towns and their schools, their textbooks, the racial and sexual ratios and failure rates in Algebra II, prescribe what they may and may not teach, what morality must be instilled, whether people can say "One nation under God," and send federal marshals should transgression occur.

Just as Tito held the lid down on Yugoslavia, the metagovernment prevents explosion (metagovernment being the curious amalgam of the media, academia, and their allies of which the federal government is the instrument). But Tito is never immortal. Then what?

Such are our domestic circumstances. Abroad, we face further stresses that we equally fail to resolve.

We find ourselves in a partial, half-noticed war with, depending on your degree of realism, terrorism or Islam. The country suffered a devastating attack in New York. So far, we have done essentially nothing about it. We now live in anxious expectation of further devastation. The government, flaccid abroad, reacts chiefly against Americans. Surveillance of the population grows, police powers advance, and governmental accountability diminishes.

The importance of the conflict with Islam is not easily calculated nor its consequences predicted. Will there be further attacks a la New York? A government unable to protect the country, widely detested at home, and respected nowhere is not a recipe for fealty. We are getting there. Institutions fall when they cease to work, or when people believe that they have ceased to work.

What could provoke-what? A coup? Revolution? Nothing that I can imagine. The control of communications is too great, the passivity of the white population near absolute. People have enough to eat and five hundred cable channels. The military is safely emasculated.

The likelihood, I think, is that we will muddle on, dissatisfied but not too dissatisfied, turning into whatever we are turning into, learning obedience. Yet the tension is there. Remember the LA riots. Nothing lasts forever, not even America. A fascinating question is when and how it will stop lasting.


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To: Travis McGee
The Mexican invasion IS underway. In 15 years the American Southwest is going to be "Big Kosovo" with the new majority demanding local rule, all hispanic police forces, Spanish as the primary language etc.

It's way too late, so let's cut a deal with Mexico. They can have Southern California, New Mexico, and Arizona. But we must deport all the illegals in America to those ex-states, so we just may be able to save Texas.

Let's cut our losses while we still can.

61 posted on 08/15/2002 10:14:11 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
The sides will be split between leftists aganist rightists, and since liberals do not possess many arms

Many liberal voters ---their racial minorities definitely have a lot of arms.

62 posted on 08/15/2002 10:14:38 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: RLK
Without a doubt we are floating down the river of dissipation.

But there are many rocks looming ahead to overturn the raft before we reach the final ocean, and in the scramble for the paddles and the overturned raft there may be opportunity for the smartest and fastest.

63 posted on 08/15/2002 10:17:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: FITZ
Many liberal voters ---their racial minorities definitely have a lot of arms.

Gang members? Yes. But professor of Brown University? I don't think so. Or how about Soccer Moms and their husbands in the suburb of Boston? Hmm, I can go on and on, but you get the idea.

64 posted on 08/15/2002 10:18:13 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Travis McGee
It will be bad the day the welfare checks (or WIC, foodstamps, SSI checks, or others) don't arrive on time. We have a lot of artificial affluence ---people in the projects and other government housing all have cell phones, cable television, several big meals a day. They won't tolerate less and have been taught that all this is due them. There's an awful lot of boredom going to happen if they lose their electricity and can't watch television all day and they'll be more than willing to loot and burn.
65 posted on 08/15/2002 10:18:40 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Brett66
It may get ugly but some type of peaceful separation will be the best solution for all sides. The alternative is a bloody setback to the middle ages. Anyway, I sleep in peace because I know the liberals and urban blacks will never contol the nation if an uprising does occur because the 10 million man deer hunter army and the majority of the regular army grunts will be on the same side. Stay out of the urban disaster areas and whatever transforms will likely be at least tolerable.
66 posted on 08/15/2002 10:18:52 PM PDT by mysonsfuture
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To: MinorityRepublican
You're right we wouldn't have a problem with the white liberals or elite black and hispanic liberals and their guns. They're good at egging on their well-armed underclasses though.
67 posted on 08/15/2002 10:20:08 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: MinorityRepublican; SevenDaysInMay
I can't see a general taking power in a "7 Days in May" scenario. But we could get to your situation in a variety of ways.

And it will be ugly, the cities will burn, and we will not be likely to win our freedom back for generations if ever.

And during this period, our enemies will take the opportunity to march. China will conquer southeast asia etc.

68 posted on 08/15/2002 10:21:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: MinorityRepublican
That will never happen. Besides, America without California will not be the superpower that it has been.
69 posted on 08/15/2002 10:22:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: FITZ
If and when their checks stop, their electicity stops, their gas stations and supermarkets are empty....God help us all. They won't sit around singing "Kumbaya" and waiting for "The Man" to fix it some day.
70 posted on 08/15/2002 10:26:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: mysonsfuture
Peaceful separation will be impossible; dividing our nation peacefully will be like unscrambling an egg.
71 posted on 08/15/2002 10:28:03 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
I can't see a general taking power in a "7 Days in May" scenario.

Why not? What if this marxist president orders the military to seize all arms of honest, hardworking citizens in the country? Or how about there is no more freedom of speech, such as conservatives being on tv or radio. Imagine Rush Limbaugh in prison for the crime of hateful, intolerant, racist speech! Also, there has been series of incidents such as Waco, Ruby Ridge, Oklahoma City, but all happening at relatively same time, and much more severe.

At one point, this military general cannot take it anymore, so he and other generals in the military organize a coup, to undo the policies that brought absolute hell in America.

72 posted on 08/15/2002 10:28:59 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: mysonsfuture
Got me a 30.06 last year, ummm I'm not paranoid. ;)
73 posted on 08/15/2002 10:29:23 PM PDT by Brett66
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To: Travis McGee
That will never happen. Besides, America without California will not be the superpower that it has been.

Yeah, that's true. But have you been to the border in California? It's not America anymore.

74 posted on 08/15/2002 10:30:32 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
At one point, this military general cannot take it anymore, so he and other generals in the military organize a coup, to undo the policies that brought absolute hell in America.

Describe the "hell" we are in.

75 posted on 08/15/2002 10:33:20 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: MinorityRepublican
It's way too late, so let's cut a deal with Mexico. They can have Southern California, New Mexico, and Arizona.

You could give those states to Mexico but then everyone in them would make a run for the new border and end up in the USA anyhow.

76 posted on 08/15/2002 10:35:02 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: M 91 u2 K
Another writer about race wars. How long have these bozos been talking about racewar? It has not happened once in this country and no matter how much they hope for it to happen it does not. Whites in mostly black neighborhoods have very few black Vs white problems. Also while the media played up the white truck driver who was attacked in the L.A. riots the biggest victems were other black men and koreans that owned stores in that area not whites.
77 posted on 08/15/2002 10:37:00 PM PDT by Brush_Your_Teeth
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To: Travis McGee
If and when their checks stop, their electicity stops, their gas stations and supermarkets are empty

America was in much better shape when the Stock Market crashed and led to the Great Depression, if anything happens though to stop the government checks from pouring in, we're in trouble.

78 posted on 08/15/2002 10:37:27 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: MinorityRepublican
Our Generals and Admirals are fat Mandarins who love their "private" mansions, limos, drivers, lackies and so on. They are by and large as greedy and corrupt as our bishops. As long as they can keep their perks, they will gladly send troops on house to house gun sweeps.

The battle will come from the ten million deer rifle army, firing one bullet at a time from 400 yards. There is no way on earth to put a 500 yard security perimeter around all of the sold out corrupt politicos and bureaucratas who would be running the new socialist America while disregarding the Constitution and BOR.

79 posted on 08/15/2002 10:38:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: MinorityRepublican
I live in San Diego and I can see Mexico from the beach.
80 posted on 08/15/2002 10:39:51 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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