Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Russia to repay South Korean debt with arms
THE TIMES OF INDIA ^ | TUESDAY, AUGUST 13, 2002 12:30:17 PM | REUTERS

Posted on 08/14/2002 10:31:52 AM PDT by Destro

Russia to repay S Korean debt with arms

REUTERS [ TUESDAY, AUGUST 13, 2002 12:30:17 PM ]

SEOUL: South Korea is likely to sign a deal next month to acquire Russian tanks, assault ships and other armaments in return for scrubbing part of at least $1.95 billion in debt owed by Moscow, defence ministry officials said on Tuesday.

The move is part of Seoul's efforts to retrieve loans extended to the former Soviet Union in 1991 to assist Russia's transformation into a market economy.

"I heard the deal is pretty close... and September sounds like a good timeline," said one defence ministry official, who asked not be named.

"Russia has not acknowledged the full amount yet... the finance ministry has to figure out the total amount of their debt by calculating the interest," he added.

It was not immediately clear how much the interest might amount to. The Russian embassy in Seoul could not immediately be contacted.

As of May, Russia owed about $1.95 billion in principal and interest to major South Korean banks.

Under the scheme, South Korea plans to pay about $267 million in cash -- half of the total arms purchase amount -- and for the remainder forgive part of the debt owed by Russia.

"If we can solve this thing well, then obviously we can have more military cooperation and mutual understanding, which could help us stabilise the Northeast Asian region," the official said.

South Korea remains technically at war with communist North Korea after the 1950-53 Korean conflict, having never signed a peace treaty. The former Soviet Union backed North Korea during the Cold War.

Seoul established diplomatic ties with the Soviet Union in 1990, one year before it collapsed.

Most of the aircraft and weapons systems used by the South Korean military are supplied by US manufacturers, and Russian weaponry traditionally comprises a fairly small proportion, the official said.

About 37,000 US troops are stationed in South Korea.

The latest deal with Moscow would include the purchase of Russian T-80 tanks, LCAC hovercraft assault ships, KA-32 transport helicopters, BMP-3 armoured vehicles and other military hardware, the official said.

A tentative agreement on this was finalised earlier this year following two years of talks and was also discussed during Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov's visit to Seoul in July.

"Obviously they (Ivanov and South Korean officials) talked about this issue because the loan is overdue by at least 10 years," said the official.

The total of Soviet-era debt, mainly credits received from private Western lenders, is estimated to be around $42 billion.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Russia
KEYWORDS: russia; southkorea
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-24 next last
I guess the cold war really is over!
1 posted on 08/14/2002 10:31:52 AM PDT by Destro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Destro
I'll bet that deal really frosted the gonads China and North Korea! Especially the LCACs!
2 posted on 08/14/2002 10:36:46 AM PDT by PsyOp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PsyOp
money talks, comrades walk.
3 posted on 08/14/2002 10:49:17 AM PDT by Destro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: lavaroise; belmont_mark
Enjoy
4 posted on 08/14/2002 10:50:38 AM PDT by Destro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Destro

Maybe they really mean arms.

5 posted on 08/14/2002 10:58:26 AM PDT by DainBramage
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Destro
Good now they don't have to invade North Korea to get the Russian Arms.
6 posted on 08/14/2002 11:10:07 AM PDT by YOMO
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Destro
We should do the same damn thing instead of letting them default on loans. All the power to us, we need armament bad.
7 posted on 08/14/2002 12:23:33 PM PDT by lavaroise
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Destro
I suppose they are taking the stuff for training purposes, and just so that they get "something" (better than nothing) for the loans that have probably been written off as worthless.
8 posted on 08/14/2002 12:23:41 PM PDT by glorgau
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Destro; belmont_mark
Well, I guess throating down your weapons sales by threatening default is better than nothing. Still obvious of the rough tactics of the Russians. They get away with a lot.
9 posted on 08/14/2002 12:25:12 PM PDT by lavaroise
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: lavaroise
I see no evidence arms twisting here - hehe
10 posted on 08/14/2002 12:32:41 PM PDT by Destro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: glorgau
You don't train a force mainly armed with American weapons with Russian T-80 tanks, LCAC hovercraft assault ships, KA-32 transport helicopters, BMP-3 armoured vehicles, etc. These are not throw away weapons systems either.
11 posted on 08/14/2002 12:36:37 PM PDT by Destro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: lavaroise
Why would you want to buy/take in exchange arms
which are clearly substandard?

Mad Vlad
12 posted on 08/14/2002 12:37:12 PM PDT by madvlad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: lavaroise; glorgau; Destro
We should do the same damn thing instead of letting them default on loans. All the power to us, we need armament bad.

The following is an interesting link (copy and paste):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/695515/posts

When you get there click on the other link at the top to Flight Journal for the original article.

13 posted on 08/14/2002 2:15:52 PM PDT by spetznaz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Destro; Stavka2; JanL; lavaroise; bat-boy; Jeff Head; rightwing2; Orion78; Noswad
There is something very Machiavellian here. I wonder what the real angle is from the standpoint of the DPRK-loving Kremlin? The last time there was a state visit (by train!) of the DPRK to Russia, it was a veritable love fest. There must be something hidden in this that does not meet the eye. "Booga, booga, booga!" (from the depths of my bunker, wreathed in tin foil, shouting "yee haw" in unison with the bomb riding General....Belmont Mark out...)
14 posted on 08/14/2002 3:15:44 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: madvlad
First off, the article doesn't tell us much about which variant of the T-80 they are recieving. So its hard to make a properly informed judgement.

Why would you want to buy/take in exchange arms which are clearly substandard?

Because they are better than the ones they already have. They currently field the M-48 (which rolled into service in the U.S in 1953!!) although it is upgraded, and the K1 (indigenous)whos competitors are the T-72 and Germany's Mark 3, they are developing a K1A1 but they have yet to start serial production of them and they are also having difficulty with the 120mm gun as opposed to the K1's 105 mm gun.

I've read that they already have T-80's but i'm unsure if this is true and in what quantity. Either way, the T-80 is more capable than any of their tanks they currently field. So while it is sub standard compared to the new stuff it is still capable.

As for the other equipment, I couldn't say. Still, they're aren't stupid and wouldn't take the equipment if it was crap.

15 posted on 08/14/2002 7:03:57 PM PDT by enrg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: belmont_mark
While you are at it, go ask why Klintoon and Bush Jr. both suck up to N. Korea and build nuclear plants for them, that they damn well know they will never be able to inspect. The US is openly propogating nuclear technology to psychotic dictators...stew on that with your endless conspiracy theories.
16 posted on 08/14/2002 11:10:54 PM PDT by Stavka2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: madvlad
Go educate yourself on Janes or any other good weapons books about these "substandard" system.
17 posted on 08/14/2002 11:14:29 PM PDT by Stavka2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Destro
Good. Keeps the weapons out of the hands of the looters in Russia:

At the end of 2001, the chairman of the Russian Audit Chamber (an independent parliamentary watchdog organization the controls the spending of budgetary funds), Sergei Stepashin disclosed that of the $3.7 billion Russia earned on arms exports in 2000, government coffers got only $7,000 .

http://www.bu.edu/iscip/vol12/felgenhauer2.html


18 posted on 08/14/2002 11:16:26 PM PDT by LarryLied
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LarryLied; Stavka2
At the end of 2001, the chairman of the Russian Audit Chamber (an independent parliamentary watchdog organization the controls the spending of budgetary funds), Sergei Stepashin disclosed that of the $3.7 billion Russia earned on arms exports in 2000, government coffers got only $7,000 . http://www.bu.edu/iscip/vol12/felgenhauer2.html .

Ay yi yi!

If this is true then it is beyond corruption.

Hey Stavka, i know about the Oligarchs and the 'rule of seven bankers,' however can the oligarchs be this powerful (having the ability to skim 3.7 billion and leave only 7 grand)?

19 posted on 08/15/2002 6:35:25 AM PDT by spetznaz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Stavka2
Limp wristed appeasement is of course inexcusable. A book titled "While America Sleeps" by Kagan and Kagan details both the 1994 initial appeasement as well as following episodes. Not unlike the position of the US Gov vis a vis both the Kremlin and the Forbidden City. We are working to change all that and you will someday not like what you see.
20 posted on 08/15/2002 7:21:05 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-24 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson