The Constitution allows for a way to change the people running the government, and every person that's in DC right now, has been voted into place by Americans. The fact that you do not like the choices made by the rest of the nation, doesn't give you the right to advocate the overthrow of a constitutionally elected government.
The real outcome of any sort of a popular uprising would create nothing but dead bodies, and your notion that we could "...engage the opposition forces out in the open, where we always have the advantage..." while being incredibly romantic, and very swashbuckling, is bunk.
The reality of it would be a lot more Tiananmen Square, than Bunker Hill. Marxists do not implement their ideology without knowing full and damned well that THEY control the field, and while our Second Amendment protects our rights to bear arms, they will be no match for theirs.
The concept of killing the patient to save the patient doesn't hold water, and that's what you advocate.
Here is the real outcome to your "Hillary for President" fantasy, and the subsequent "uprising"...dead Americans, martial Law, Hillary in charge of the US Army, and using it to police the American people.
No thank you, you're far more dangerous than Hillary.
Go get 'em, Luis!
Yes, we can change the people, but we cant get those people to obey the constitution, except in mouthing the oath to protect it. That's the fundamental problem.
"The fact that you do not like the choices made by the rest of the nation, doesn't give you the right to advocate the overthrow of a constitutionally elected government."
Here you accuse me falsely and I resent this. What I said was that election of Hillary would cause a reaction that would result in a choosing of sides between a government espousing Marxist ideas and the natural will of the people to be free. And I never said I was advocating or supporting Hillary for President!!!
"The real outcome of any sort of a popular uprising would create nothing but dead bodies."
An uprising doesn't necessarily have to be a violent one, it could take many forms including passive resistance, not paying taxes, using barter in place of cash, etc. You sound rather like a Tory propagandist arguing against those crazy Sons of Liberty to me, who were told they had no chance.
"your notion that we could "...engage the opposition forces out in the open, where we always have the advantage..." while being incredibly romantic, and very swashbuckling, is bunk."
Again you misrepresent me, when I say engage I am talking about the war of ideas and bringing the issues into focus, whereas our elected leaders and their propagandists in the press, are paid to obfuscate the issues, keep us in the dark, and waste our efforts on symbolic battles like the pledge of allegiance and the Flag, while the constitution and bill of rights withers away.
"The reality of it would be a lot more Tiananmen Square, than Bunker Hill. Marxists do not implement their ideology without knowing full and damned well that THEY control the field, and while our Second Amendment protects our rights to bear arms, they will be no match for theirs."
Tianenamen Square happened in a large result because this country has sold out its principles and our President George Bush the first, made a tacit deal with them to do so. He played Pontius Pilate and if you doubt that, go read Seeds of Fire by Gordon Thomas. As for Marxists always controlling the field you are wrong! Marxists when exposed for what they are, are always rejected by the American people and Hillary would succumb to her desires to rule terribly and try to implement such draconian measures that the people would finally say enough and resist, ultimately causing a sea change, in my opinion.
"The concept of killing the patient to save the patient doesn't hold water, and that's what you advocate."
No the patient (freedom, the only thing worth defending) is currently bleeding from every orifice while both parties and their flunkies perform cosmetic surgery.
"Here is the real outcome to your "Hillary for President" fantasy, and the subsequent "uprising"...dead Americans, martial Law, Hillary in charge of the US Army, and using it to police the American people."
No, you are the one engaging in fantasy if you think the Army would follow Hillary into Martial Law to police the American public. More likely the Senior military would revolt and the mass of soldiers would follow it and sack the elitists like Hillary, Teddy K, Chris Dodd, and Trent Lott. A new constitutional convention would be called and regular citizens would have to step up and take over. Of course, the US military might have to first rout the foreign and UN military troops already in this country, which you probably will deny before even trying to investigate, but I'm sure you will just paint a tinfoil hat on me to solve that problem for you.
"No thank you, you're far more dangerous than Hillary."
And I' sure you would include me with such other dangerous types as Alex Jones of Infowars.com and those of yesteryear Washington, Madison, Jefferson, Jackson, et al, who would be amazed that you could look at our current country as a "free republic" in any way. We are an Empire, one that confiscates half of personal wealth, monitors and regulates every facet of business, and has turned over the right to coin money to international banksters, and long ago pledged the land and property of the US over to pay for the debts incurred against the USA.
You have misrepresented my points and in turn made WILD accusations against me. I'm not sure you are being an entirely honest debater. Either that, or you knowledge of history is incomplete. The American Revolution was successful because it was based on the natural want of people to be free in their personal lives of controlling an unresponsive government and they produced talking points (Declaration of Indeopendence, Federalist Papers, Anti-Federalist papers, etc) to guide it. Today we have a government more interested in Afghanistan and Iraq than defending our borders or even the Pentagon, and it only takes half the wealth of the people to do this. It now operates more under the UN charter than US Constitution. The people must demand a rededication to those principles before they are completely extinguished from the people's memories by cultural marxism (PC). And if you will not fight or are afraid of the consequences, you will never be free, because the tyrants never run unless the people are unafraid of them. So I for one say, Hillary "bring it on!"
We were much more effective fighting for freedom with Clinton in office than Bush! Patriots have gone to sleep! Wake up!