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Actually, I didn't really think we were debating, more like just conversing. I don't think our positions are really different enough to actually debate, though I could be mistaken.

Try looking at it this way. A poor person can walk next door, stick a gun in their neighbor's face and demand enough money to buy the essentials for their child. That is armed robbery and most people would never even think of it. On the other hand, they will gladly vote to do the exact same thing using the government agent as surrogate. They will vote to send an armed tax collector into the same neighbor's house to take by force a portion of their income that will then be redistributed via welfare to pay for the essentials the child needs.

It is the same exact act, though it should be considered even more immoral to use the surrogate because then the person benefiting from the theft isn't even suffering the risk of the criminal act.

Well I'm sure not voting for any more taxes.There are alot of things that tax money is spent on that I don't agree with. I have talked with people who claim to be anti-goverment folks who then talk about going down to secure foodstamps for themselves.What hypocrites.I guess some of them maybe don't have any other way to get any food,but it just burns my butt that all that tax money comes off my check and then goes into their back pocket,albeit indirectly.How about the annexation issue where the city forced sewer hook-ups on all the folks north of town,at their own cost,who had septic systems before.The poor old folks who refused got their house seized by the city.They resisted to the end though.But I will say our educational system is way underfunded in this state,and most states,and if I have to pay taxes,this is one thing it's probobly worth paying for.My feeling is the rich and corporations do not pay their share of taxes,if they did,that would probobly fund our schools-any feelings on that?