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Oregon Firefighters get no help from the weather
Oregon Live/ AP ^ | 13 August 2002 | Jeff Barnard

Posted on 08/13/2002 7:48:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave

Oregon Firefighters get no help from the weather By JEFF BARNARD The Associated Press 8/13/02 3:25 AM

GRANTS PASS, Ore. (AP) -- Dry east winds, low humidity and temperatures topping 100 degrees are giving firefighters all they can handle as the massive Biscuit Fire creeps toward several small towns.

The fire, Oregon's largest in more than a century, stood at 376,800 acres on the Siskiyou National Forest and adjoining lands in southwestern Oregon and northern California. It started July 13 from lightning that struck in the remote Kalmiopsis Wilderness.

"This week is an important week for the fire," said Susan Mathison, a Forest Service spokeswoman. "High temperatures, single-digit humidities, strong east winds -- all those contribute to an expectation of increased fire activity."

Said David Widmark, a spokesman for the Northwest Interagency Coordination Center: "The next 24 to 36 hours will be a big test for the Biscuit and the Tiller fires."

Widmark said the Biscuit Fire was moving slowly toward the small communities of Agness and Wilderness Retreat.

Firefighters on Monday did manage to get a line around a spot fire that threatened a major power line serving northern California.

"I don't think we'll have any reason to turn the power off and cause any problems down in Crescent City (Calif.)," said U.S. Forest Service spokesman Mike Ferris.

The spot fire had slopped over the main containment line on the southeastern flank, coming within a half-mile of two transmission lines serving 14,800 customers in Del Norte County, Calif., said Monte Mendenhall, regional community manager of Pacific Power.

Meanwhile, on the northeast flank of the fire, strong dry winds forced crews to withdraw from trying to light off a burnout operation to strengthen containment lines between Bear Camp Road and Indigo Prairie, Ferris said.

In other developments:

The Biscuit Fire has prevented a search for a Grants Pass man who was last seen a month ago as he hiked into the Kalmiopsis Wilderness.

Two days after 32-year-old Michael Woods set out on a three-week backpacking trip, lightning sparked the 376,492-acre Biscuit Fire. The blaze has been burning since July 13 and covers an area nearly half the size of Rhode Island.

"With the fire activity, hopefully he was able to find some shelter -- a creek, river drainage, an abandoned mine," said Lt. Brian Anderson of the Josephine County Sheriff's Office.

Boy Scout officials say they consider the damage done by the fire as an opportunity to make improvements at McCaleb Ranch, a historic camp damaged two weeks ago.

The wildfire reached the ranch on July 26 and destroyed most of the camp's buildings. The fire, however, didn't touch a footbridge and low-water bridge that cross the Illinois River, so the scouts still have access to the site.

"I think we'll use this as a means to improve the facility," said Pat Fahey, Troop 23 Scoutmaster. "We've been wanting to do stuff for years. This might spur us to get something done."

Full containment for the southern flank in California was expected by Thursday. The whole fire was 25 percent contained.

"The fire isn't spreading that much," said Ferris. "It's creeping against the wind along the ridges and down the slopes, then running up the other side."

Meanwhile, a new fire erupted Sunday in eastern Oregon, about 17 miles northwest of Burns. Officials said the fire was caused by human activity.

"This one has potential. If we don't catch it today, it's going to be a biggie," Widmark said.

The new fire, named the Bald Green Butte fire, was burning near a Ponderosa pine forest and rugged terrain.


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KEYWORDS: biscuitfire; christines; enviralists; greenjihadists; kalmiopsisburning; oregonisburning; ruralcleansing
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To: headsonpikes
Thanks, maybe we should refer to them in the future as:

Watermelon B*stards

41 posted on 08/13/2002 10:09:00 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
bttt
42 posted on 08/13/2002 11:08:25 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly; headsonpikes; EBUCK; AAABEST; sauropod; BOBTHENAILER
Headsonpikes labeling is really perfect.

It is time to stope beating around the bushes.

It is appropriate and timely call these scumbags:

Watermelon B*stards!

43 posted on 08/13/2002 11:11:42 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
(blush)

You gave me the durned idea, Gramps!

They are definitely Green on the outside, Red in the middle, and of unknown parentage. Fair's fair. ;^)
44 posted on 08/13/2002 11:16:20 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: All
The latest from the Oregonian:

Hotter weather will feed wildfires/ 08/13/02

R. GREGORY NOKES and WENDY OWEN

Some of the summer's hottest temperatures in Oregon, combined with low humidity and a prediction of gusty east winds, increased the potential for a worsening of the state's already bad fire season.

"The next 24 hours will be pretty critical," David Widmark, a spokesman in the Northwest Interagency Coordinating Center in Portland, said late Monday. "Conditions are ripe for burning."

Temperatures reached 105 degrees in Agness on Monday, forcing fire crews to suspend plans to ignite a burnout to deprive the Biscuit fire of fuel.

Widmark said firefighters focused their greatest effort on the west and north sides of the 376,492-acre fire in Southwest Oregon, formerly known as the Florence fire. The fire burned slowly on the north toward Agness and on the west toward homes in the Wilderness Retreat community along the Chetco River, east of Brookings.

"It's definitely doing some creeping" toward those communities, Widmark said. However, it still hadn't reached a "trigger point" where officials would warn residents of Agness to evacuate their homes. Wilderness Retreat remained under a voluntary evacuation.

The Curry County sheriff's office issued a pre-evacuation notice for about five homes along the Pistol River. Flames had jumped a fire line and moved within several miles of the homes, about eight miles east of the coastal town of Pistol River between Gold Beach and Brookings.

Crews were back on the line Monday after being pulled out of the area Sunday evening as the flames came over Snow Camp ridge.

"When the fire starts getting squirrelly, we pull them out and let the fire die down," said Peter D'Aquanni, fire information officer.

Although not as active as last week, the fire near Wilderness Retreat, 13 miles east of Brookings, continued a slow march toward about 20 dwellings. Flames were spotted across the containment line during the weekend, and again Monday.

Firefighters and bulldozers fell back and worked to tie two roads together to create another fire line.

"We've been trying to catch it with a hand line but the hand line did not hold," said Mark Van Every, fire information officer. "Obviously, we're concerned about this spotting, but it's not a serious threat to Wilderness Retreat at this moment."



Then next 24 to 48 hours are very critical with the over 100 degree heat, low humidity and the easterly winds.

Remember the west side of the fire due to the coastal mountains does not really heat up until the afternoon sun hits the western slope. That will get critical shortly after noon until about 5 pm.

The fact that it got to 105 in Agness yesterday, shows that the north end of the fire still has the potential to creep forward.
45 posted on 08/13/2002 11:21:33 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave; headsonpikes
Watermelon Ba$tards! BUMP

EBUCK

46 posted on 08/13/2002 11:30:43 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: EBUCK; headsonpikes
I like it!
47 posted on 08/13/2002 11:33:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: EBUCK
Infact this would be a great bumpersticker!

Someone with computer skills could create this to print out on our computers. Then with some wide scotch tape, we can make it into a bumper sticker to go with your other sticker.
48 posted on 08/13/2002 11:35:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave; headsonpikes; EBUCK

49 posted on 08/13/2002 11:35:53 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST; EBUCK; headsonpikes
This is the only bad thing about calling these Green Jihadists, Watermelons.

I love watermelon! In fact, I just added watermelon to my grocery list for this evening's dinner after seeing your picture of a watermelon.
50 posted on 08/13/2002 11:38:33 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave; Admin Moderator
I got an E-Mail from my free image hosting site. I'm using way way way to much bandwidth. Do you know if there is any way to delete my images from older threads?

EBUCK

51 posted on 08/13/2002 11:40:05 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: AAABEST; EBUCK; headsonpikes
This is from Joe Broward:


52 posted on 08/13/2002 11:41:40 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: EBUCK
You might want to check with Joe Brower or nimc.

I'm an absolute neophyte when it comes to this stuff.
53 posted on 08/13/2002 11:43:33 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave; Joe Brower
Joe, is there any way to delete my images from old threads? I've exceded (by a country mile) my bandwidth alotment and I'm going to lose my site if I don't do something to cut it back. Thanks,

EBUCK
54 posted on 08/13/2002 11:48:53 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: Grampa Dave
"I love watermelon!"

Don't go all liberal on us now, Gramps! LOL!

55 posted on 08/13/2002 11:51:01 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Grampa Dave
I'm an absolute neophyte ...

At least you're big enough to admit it. I'll have you know that you neophytes are are causing problems for us real phytes.

56 posted on 08/13/2002 12:01:00 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Grampa Dave
This is from Joe Broward:

Who?


57 posted on 08/13/2002 12:15:18 PM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: EBUCK; Admin Moderator
Joe, is there any way to delete my images from old threads?

Hmmmm... Not that I know of. The Admin Mod probably could, but it would be a bit of work for them, I imagine.

You need to get a real ISP, good fellow!

58 posted on 08/13/2002 12:16:54 PM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: Joe Brower
Hey, I'm an old man who is short on coffee. Heck, I can't even spell Cranpa Cave.
59 posted on 08/13/2002 12:22:51 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: AAABEST
That's one of the good things that comes with age. The ability to admit something that you are or that you ain't.

Your are right. I should never use the prefix, Neo, with any word/phrase with all of the worthless Bravo Sierra discussions on conservatives, real conservatives, neoconservatives, semi conservatives, pseudo conservatives, pseudo neoconservatives and semineoconservatives.
60 posted on 08/13/2002 12:29:27 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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