Posted on 08/12/2002 5:37:34 PM PDT by Glutton
"Trying to slander people like me who thinks people should be kind to animals is pretty sad."
Question: do you or do you not think that a woman should kill her childern if she wants to, and that a man should have no ability at all to protect those children?
I pick on no one, it is unproductive. You have stated clearly that killing children is ok, but killing stray cats is wrong.
Though I have spoken with Laura Bush once, time did not permit me the ability to discuss abortion with her. I would have enjoyed the chance had time permited. Who knows? I might be able to persuade her to see things on a deeper level.
Wasn't it Bill Clinton who said "I feel your pain."?
A million posts about stray kittens, small birds, cute fuzzy chinchillas, and spotted owls will not change the fact that you treasure animal life over human life. Save the kitten that talked to the lady, but don't stop that lady from killing her baby... nice, real nice.
As far as my "two great kids" (strange to put that in quotation marks, maybe some sarcasm there?) go, don't you worry about 'em.
No sarcasm intended. The quotation marks merely indicated a direct quotation from your profile page. Since I don't know them, I cannot make any conclusions (positive or otherwise) about them.
They know how to take care of their cats, house cats. My two great kids know that feral cats are destructive because they've seen it first hand,
Most living things are destructive. Gophers are (from a rancher's perspective) destructive. Sheep, from a cattleman's perspective, are destructive. Rabbits (from an Australian perspective) are terribly destructive. Here we come to the nub of our difference in perception. As nearly as I can tell, you believe that you have either a right - or, perhaps, a responsibility? - to eliminate the feral cats. I don't concur.
they had rabbit(meat rabbits, Oh my God not raising those cute rabbits to be killed and eaten)
Now you're being facetious. So long as they kill the rabbits in a quick, humane manner they are doing nothing morally different than ordering a fast food hamburger. It can be argued that they are more honest about the process since they act directly, instead of through intermediaries.
pens raided by a couple of the mange infested things before.
So the objection is to the economic cost? It seems that it would be easier to make more secure pens.
They've also seen feral cats get wild rabbits, young ones. Not to mention numerous bird nests around the around the hood.
Not meaning to be unkind, but...so? Seriously. You already mentioned that your children eat rabbits. Why shouldn't the cat? And other predators will go after rabbits as well. Or do wild rabbits have some particular value that I don't see? The same applies to birds. Most of us consume birds too - in our case, chickens and (sometimes) turkeys. If the cat eats a sparrow - or some other bird - what of it?
As far as the seeing the reality of that lesson, I see it. Or, would you like to explain what you mean? (It could be taken in a couple of differnt ways.)
I'm not at all sure that you do. But I have confidence that in the fullness of time you will.
I taught it. I was taught by a good man. I passed it on. My great kids don't have to depend on going to the grocery store if they don't choose too. (I know, the HORROR, someone has taught their kids to hunt and fish, Oh My..)
Once again, you proceed from a false assumption. Hunting (and fishing) for food is one thing. Removal of the feral cat population because they hunt for food (i.e., young wild rabbits and birds) is quite another.
I know that my great kids have more knowledge about the mechanics of nature than most of these ignorant bleeding heart PETA posters do.
About some aspects, quite possibly. Nature is red in tooth and claw; and man (being a highly successful predator) participates. But I wonder if the gratuitous slaughter of feral cats because their behavior offends one's sensibilities doesn't reduce one to less then their level. The cats kill because they're hungry, not for the joy of killing. Nor do they seek to exterminate competing predators.
I apologize to you in advance if you take offense But impression is ya intend to offend.
I'm not offended - you've said nothing to give offense. My hope is that you'll change your view of the cats to something other than "mange infested things." One could say of birds "Mite infested things that spread disease and steal grain from people's mouths."
Some years ago, the Peoples' Republic of China decided that the sparrow was an enemy of the people, and the government designated it as such. The reason was that some bureaucrat had decided that sparrows consumed grain which would be better used to feed people. And so it was decided to make noise and prevent the sparrows from perching. When an exhausted bird dropped to the ground, it was beaten to death. Ironically, it was later learned that the sparrow didn't really eat much grain at all - actually, it ate mostly insects, and thus protected the grain. But by then, sparrows had been exterminated across broad stretches of China.
You can read the full details at: http://www.aapn.org/archives.html#CHINESE%20SPARROWS first published in the Wall Street Journal.
The PRC was, clearly, misguided. They now realize that. I think that the slaughter of feral cats is likewise misguided.
CHILDREN? Hell NO. Are you crazy?
That one thread (IMO) was about a mans right to spread his 'seed' and his expectations. I was saying that if the man doesn't know ahead of time what a woman is going to do with his 'seed' than it's his own stupid fault whether she kills herself...aborts the fetus, gives it up for adoption or demands child support from him. IF he's out playing around and decides afterwards what he wants HER to do...tough luck.
In latin, where the term came from, fetus means newly delivered, offspring, or child.
You support that clearly yet again.
"Save the kitten! Kill the child!"
An... inhuman point of view if I ever saw one.
You want someone to execute your cat, just for the opportunity to complain? You're strange some days. Others, you're OK.
fe·tus Pronunciation Key (fts)
n. pl. fe·tus·es
The unborn young of a viviparous vertebrate having a basic structural resemblance to the adult animal. In humans, the unborn young from the end of the eighth week after conception to the moment of birth, as distinguished from the earlier embryo.
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I forget that a fetus was after the 8th week. Please add the word embryo to my previous posts...and also add zygote while you're at it.
But that wasn't my point.
It's true. I'll vouch for it - you all should see what shags can get a cat to do. Why, I'll bet that none of you have ever seen a cat with a juggling act, have you?
Quite honestly, shags does the real grunt work with the cats - the man's a whiz with a taser. And he really loves his work - most people don't know that you can train a cat to tap-dance, but shags can do it. It's all a matter of voltage. I'm really just the spokesman and fundraiser for the "Shaggy Eel Reformatory for Wayward Cats".
Where can I send a contribution?
Well, normally we'd ask you to send contributions directly to the Reformatory, but in this case, we have some leftover expenses from our most recent brainstorming session. So if you want to contribute to the cause, give generously and send your contribution to O'Grady's Pub, put my name and shaggy's name on your check, and be sure to mark it "for current tab".
Bless you sir, for your generosity, and we'll name a cat after you. Shaggy's got one right now that can almost ride a bicycle, but we need a few more sessions pushing it down the bigger hills to really nail it down - as soon as it's fully trained, it'll be named "Tennessee Bob, the Bicycle Cat" in your honor...
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,,, where would we be without your vision and abilty to put the case? Best not to mention the steroids and implants for "TB the bicycle cat" at this early stage.
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