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No Democratic Tide in November
U.S. News & World Report ^ | 8/12/02 | Michael Barone

Posted on 08/12/2002 3:18:02 PM PDT by My2Cents

No Democratic tide

BY MICHAEL BARONE

In a column in the July 18, 1994, issue of U.S. News, I wrote that there was a serious possibility that Republicans would capture control of the House in November. It was, so far as I know, the first article in the national press that foresaw that year's Republican victory. The article cited five non-scandal-plagued Democratic incumbents who trailed Republican challengers in media or partisan polls. It's unusual for incumbents to trail in polls and a sign that a party is in trouble when competent incumbents are behind.

Today, amid much talk–cheerful talk by Democrats, pessimistic talk by Republicans–that issues of corporate wrongdoing are going to help the Democrats, there is no evidence, at least yet, of any such tide. Except for districts where incumbents have been forced to run against each other by redistricting, the number of House incumbents trailing challengers in publicly announced polls is zero. The closest thing is a Republican poll showing Minnesota's Democratic Rep. Bill Luther ahead 35 to 34. But Luther underperformed in 1998 and 2000, and is running in a mostly new district.

Five senators have trailed in publicly announced polls, but there is no partisan trend; they include Democrats Tim Johnson (S.D.) , Paul Wellstone (Minn.), Jean Carnahan (Mo.), and Republicans Tim Hutchinson (Ark.) and Bob Smith (N.H.) . (Smith's primary opponent, Rep. John Sununu, runs better.) In other Senate races, no recent polls show significant changes.

Local politics. All this is not to say that there won't be a Democratic trend by November. It does say that one hasn't appeared yet. An August 6 New York Times story said, "Rising voter concern about the nation's future, driven by an unsteady economy and unrest on Wall Street, is stirring nervousness among some Republicans and lifting confidence among Democratic leaders." But the article doesn't cite any numbers in any districts.

Now it is true that Democrats don't need as big a swing as Republicans needed in 1994 to win the House, and they only need to hold their current seats to maintain a majority in the Senate. A swing toward the Democrats that would show up as statistically insignificant in a poll could give them gains in both houses. But it is also true that changes in attitudes on general questions–whether the country is moving in the right direction, which party's candidate will you favor for the House–do not always move numbers in individual races.

Nor is it clear that Democrats have a big advantage on economic issues. The pro-Democrat Democracy Corps poll, taken July 22-24 (the Dow plunged 840 points July 19-23), shows Republicans ahead on the economy (44-39) and not far behind on standing up to powerful Washington special interests (30-31) or dealing with corporate abuses (34-39). Democracy Corps's Stanley Greenberg and James Carville recommend that Democrats attack Bush for conflicts of interest (though his ratings for honesty remain high), on handling the economy (though their own poll shows voters prefer Republicans on that), pensions, and Social Security.

Greenberg and Carville argue that Democrats can campaign on "major reforms to protect investors and people's 401(k) plans." But what voter expects the government to insure him against any loss in value? Democrats have attacked Republicans for favoring "privatization of Social Security," that is, allowing individual investment accounts as part of the system. But that policy has continued to poll well, if the issue is framed as Bush frames it, despite the stock market drop. Now Republicans are trying to turn the tables by attacking Democrats like Tim Johnson for backing "privatization," by which they mean government investment of Social Security funds.

Naturally, people planning to retire soon are disappointed with their 401(k)'s. But most of the 70 percent of voters who own stock aren't planning to cash in soon and are less concerned with their momentary balance than with whether they can expect progress in the lifelong project of accumulating wealth. And large majorities believe the stock market will be higher one year and 10 years from now. In the meantime, incumbents of both parties seem to be doing well, as they did in 1996, 1998, and 2000. The partisan deadlock hasn't yet been broken.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; elections; fadinghopes
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To: Saundra Duffy
I am so poor you can't believe it, yet I sent $70 to Senator Bob Smith. I hope he kicks the crap out of that snot-nosed Sununu kid.

It pains me to say this, but you just threw your $70 down the drain.

Smith is history. I suggest that you check out the editorial today in the Manchester (NH) Union Leader, at:

http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_show.html?article=13343

21 posted on 08/12/2002 3:49:37 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: My2Cents
Ahh, but the Democraps have the party bus!
22 posted on 08/12/2002 3:52:31 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: My2Cents
Had the Repubicans had an ounce of competence among them, this could have been a election where the balance tipped significantly in their favor.

A third of the voting population is securely leftist. Another third is securely to the right. That leaves the deciding votes in the hands of the third in the middle.

Just how would you appeal to the middle? Would you tell them how right the right is and how wrong the left is?

If the center could be persuaded by the arguments of either the left or the right, they would not be in the center.

Did you ever notice that only leftist positions and policies appeal to the left?

Did you ever notice that only right wing positions and policies appeal to the right?

Here is a tiny clue for the clueless.

Only centrist positions and policies appeal to the center!!

The truth is that Bush has done all he can to garner support of the center. Without a majority of the center no election can be won. Bush has approval ratings of near 70 percent. That means he has nearly all the right and nearly all the center. A president can't do more than that.

There are people on the right who really believe that those in the center can be influenced using arguments and policies that appeal to the right. Some even believe a party can win a race without a majority of the center.


23 posted on 08/12/2002 3:52:43 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: My2Cents
I agree with your assessment and I'm not really bashing Barone - he's not bad as pundits go. The problem these "beltway elites" have in a post-911 election cycle is that they think voters will fall into typical mid-term patterns. I believe their built-in bias could lead to another 1994-type election miss.

Rank and file voters know we are at war and still have vivid memories of the 911 attacks. The first anniversary will rekindle the kind of patriotism that we saw immediately after the attacks. I believe it will carry over the ~60 leading up to the election. Therefore, the Carville strategy to bitch and blame won't go over, IMHO.

Finally, I believe pollsters are missing the emotional attachment among voters in all parties about the President. It amazes me that polls are taken almost daily on the scandal de jour, but rarely try to get to the gut level of voters. Like you, I think the McAuliffe RANT this weekend demonstrates that the democrat party has internal polling that is horrible, or that they are using pollsters who simply cannot connect with non-coastal elites.

Either way, I predict the GOP will control all 3 branches of government after the election. I will leave it to others to pick the RINO traitor that may try to reverse another voter-selected house of congress.
24 posted on 08/12/2002 3:55:41 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Common Tator
Good post.
25 posted on 08/12/2002 3:57:43 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: My2Cents
I've always thought that "officially" it's still the Democrat party, not the Democratic party.........right or wrong, it really pisses 'em off (makes them wonder?) when I bring this up.

Maybe because 'Democrat' sounds so much more Maoist than 'Democratic', which may give more of a freedom connotation...either way, try it out on one of your liberal (er...um.....Progressive) aquaintances.

26 posted on 08/12/2002 3:57:59 PM PDT by ErnBatavia
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To: Saundra Duffy; jackbill
Also, read this: Will Mr. Smith go (back) to Washington? from the Boston Globe.

The debate is on CSPAN right now.

27 posted on 08/12/2002 4:01:44 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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To: My2Cents
The nation appears to still be evenly divided. Had the Repubicans had an ounce of competence among them, this could have been a election where the balance tipped significantly in their favor

please explain. At least forty percent of the country is going to disagree with us regardless of how glib a spokesman the Republicans put out front. Face it, the congress is evenly divided because the country is and will likely remain that way for some time.

28 posted on 08/12/2002 4:03:44 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: My2Cents
I'm more hopeful. I think that the anniversary of Sept 11 will refocus people going into the election cycle..
29 posted on 08/12/2002 4:04:31 PM PDT by Isle of sanity in CA
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To: Saundra Duffy
I am so poor you can't believe it, yet I sent $70 to Senator Bob Smith. I hope he kicks the crap out of that snot-nosed Sununu kid.

Just so he can lose? Smith made an ass of himself running for President and then running as an independent. Didnt you read the article, Sununu runs much better against the Democrat than Smith. Smith has the most vulnerable senatorial spot this year.

30 posted on 08/12/2002 4:06:31 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Dave S
I think the Republicans could be pressing a number of issues to their advantage: the judicial appointments of Bush; the no-nothing legacy of the Daschle-led Senate (and his autocratic decision to require a supermajority for major issues before they can be voted on the floor); Bush could be talking-up greater tax cuts and other economic reforms in light of the current market stall in order to stimulate investment and force the Democrats' hands; the GOP could be pressing the issue of school vouchers more in poor black neighborhoods in order to blunt the near-Democrat monopoly on these voters. These just for starters.
31 posted on 08/12/2002 4:16:39 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: Common Tator
That means he has nearly all the right....

Not according to the posts I read on FR. (He may have 95% of the right; there's a vocal 5% -- which appears to be more like 20% here on FR -- that appears willing to sit on their hands and let the country go to the 'RATS.)

32 posted on 08/12/2002 4:20:20 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: My2Cents
It wouldn't hurt if the RNC started running positive commercials congratulating DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe on his spectacular $18 million profit from investing $100,000 in Global Crossing and having the wisdom to cash in just before the company went bankrupt.
33 posted on 08/12/2002 4:22:17 PM PDT by yoswif
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To: Common Tator; My2Cents
Only centrist positions and policies appeal to the center!! .... There are people on the right who really believe that those in the center can be influenced using arguments and policies that appeal to the right. Some even believe a party can win a race without a majority of the center.

Maybe it wouldnt be so hard for those people to understand that going further to the right limits their appeal, not enhances it, if most of the congressional districts in the country werent as uncompetitive as they are. When a Republican or Democrat consistly wins 65-70% of his district that makes those in the district think that everyone thinks like they do. Duh? Not true nationwide. Seldom true statewide which is why Senators are more centrist than House Members. Also not true in districts which are competitive, roughly same number of Reps and Dems with centrists makeing up the difference.

Centrists dont go for hard conservative or hard liberal appeals. Thats why the Dems have been more successful. They chip away little by little getting a little of what they want here and waiting until a few years later to try and get the rest. The hard conservatives throw a hissy fit if they cant get everything they want right now because otherwise they are ideologically "un-pure" and they would rather be pure than victorious.

34 posted on 08/12/2002 4:22:52 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The big wild card: While I hope it's not timed for political reasons (although it may have to be), initiating a US military move against Iraq will stir greater post-9/11 fervor for the President that simply the anticipated remembrance. And if the operation lasts about four weeks, and we're successful in toppling Saddam before the elections, I think the Democrats are in a world of hurt. It would serve them right. If we move against Iraq before the elections, it would be great if we symbolically started concentrated air strikes on September 11th....
35 posted on 08/12/2002 4:23:43 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: Dave S
Well put! Read my post #32...what the right lacks is a sufficient sense of pragmatism.
36 posted on 08/12/2002 4:25:54 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: yoswif
It wouldn't hurt if the RNC started running positive commercials congratulating DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe on his spectacular $18 million profit from investing $100,000 in Global Crossing and having the wisdom to cash in just before the company went bankrupt.

Except that 60-70% of the country wouldnt know who Terry McAuliffe is. They would probably think he was a candidate. Twenty percent of the population dont know who the Vice President is.

37 posted on 08/12/2002 4:29:44 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
NOBODY predicted the groundswell of support for the GOP Contract with America.

Tht's because there wasn't any
Contract was a good thing but it had minimal effect on the election in 94

It was Clinton's ANTI GUN agenda and his ABORTION and GAYS in the Miltary that turned out the gun owners and Christian Right
38 posted on 08/12/2002 4:31:21 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: My2Cents
These electoral prospects could be drastically changed by developments in the war. The election is, in that sense, an eternity away.
39 posted on 08/12/2002 4:33:53 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Common Tator
A third of the voting population is securely leftist. Another third is securely to the right. That leaves the deciding votes in the hands of the third in the middle

It's more like 43% democrat ( That's what Mondale, Carter got in their landslide defeats and Clinton in 92)
And 37% for the GOP ( that's what Bush got in 92 ) The other 20% are swing voters and went for Perot in 92 and most for Clinton in 96
40 posted on 08/12/2002 4:38:33 PM PDT by uncbob
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