[CWRWinger]

I cling to the ideals and values of our colonial forefathers, and the people of the South who dared stand against Lincoln and the forces of centralization and mercantilism. These new false conservatives can mouth their platitudes and claim to be for tradition all they want.

Everytime there is a Southern thread, these false propets and neo-conservatives show up like flies to honey. We know who they are.

[steve50]

The neocons are well entrenched in the party. The attempt now seems to be to paint the true conservatives with the "hard or fringe right" handle while seperating themselves from the neocon tag. Seems to be working, you don't hear the neocon label on the idiot box much anymore.