Neo-Conservatives are not Conservatives

Sierra Times ^ | August 12, 2002 | Jeff Adams

[sauropod]

My sentiments exactly.

Rectitudine Sto. Sauropod

[sauropod]

A most excellent statement. Couldn't have said it better myself (although i didn't try ;-). 'Pod

[billbears]

Neo-conservatives see nothing wrong with big, centralized government, as long as they, the neo-conservatives, are in charge instead of liberal Democrats

Excellent post and so true!! Bump for some other true conservatives

[J. L. Chamberlain]

It's sad but true. The people have but two choices...Liberal and Liberal Lite!

J

[JohnGalt]

Neo-Conservatism believe 'Conservatism' came out of a desire to rid the world of Nazism and, today, they believe the most pressing policy debate centers around troop movements in the Middle East.

Paleo-libertarian bump.

[tcostell]

Not to be difficult, but I haven't met anyone who describes themselves as a neo-conservative, only people who describe others that way. And in that regard it's kind of like calling someone a racist, everyone accuses everyone else, but no-one owns up to it.

Liberals say that neo-conservatives are bad because they are conservative, and conservatives say their bad because they're "neo".

It makes it kind of hard for me to find someone to agree with, but easy to find someone to blame.

[steve50]

Good article. I'm not sure I agree with the term "socialist" being tied to neocons. I believe there is another term for a strong federal government that uses it's powers to benefit corporate interests, and utilizes powerful national police forces.

[stainlessbanner]

I think CD said it in another post - the use of the neo prefix is an attempt to imply that overused term "neo-nazis"

[stainlessbanner]

strong federal government that uses it's powers to benefit corporate interests, and utilizes powerful national police forces.

Clay's American System

[CWRWinger]

I cling to the ideals and values of our colonial forefathers, and the people of the South who dared stand against Lincoln and the forces of centralization and mercantilism. These new false conservatives can mouth their platitudes and claim to be for tradition all they want.

Everytime there is a Southern thread, these false propets and neo-conservatives show up like flies to honey. We know who they are.

[CWRWinger]

Excellent post! Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

[Darth Sidious]

Marker for later reading.

[wku man]

Absotively right on, bro!!! I cringe every time I hear some smarmy talking head utter the word "neo-con" and then sit there so sumg and satisfied that they've managed to squeeze in yet another current, cool inside the Beltway buzzword. Conservativism is conservatism...period! If you call yourself a conservative, but then add qualifiers, then you're not a conservative.

Back during the 2000 campaign, I inwardly winced every time I heard Bush described as a "compassionate" conservative (like conservatism itself isn't already compassionate!), but I turned a blind eye to the implications...after all, he was our man, the one who was going to bring conservative ideals back to DC and chase the Klinton-Whore scourge away for good. I turned a similar blind eye to Kack Kemp's "bleeding-heart" conservativism in '96. Never again. Liberals are liberal, moderates are moderate, and conservatives are conservative.

David Horowitz, Bill Kristol, and others who wear the Neo-con moniker on their sleeves need to reconsider. Those of us who have been on the conservative team all our lives look at them with suspicion at best, and scorn, in my case.

Great post, bro.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

[truenospinzone]

BTTT

[Ben Ficklin]

The first line of paragraph four says exactly what the fringe right thinks! "PINKOS"

The question remains: Who is obligated to build the bridge? Should the center right build the bridge to the fringe right, or vice versa?

[Cincinatus]

Neo-conservatives see nothing wrong with big, centralized government, as long as they, the neo-conservatives, are in charge instead of liberal Democrats.

Ronald Reagan was a "neo-conservative" -- he started out as a New Deal Democrat and became a Republican when the Harry Hopkins branch of the party essentially went communist.

Reagan recognized that we needed a "big government" to fight world communism. He also recognized that there were some things big government did well -- like fight a highly technological war. And he realized that having government engineering social policy was idiotic.

And Ronald Reagan was a better "conservative" than any paleocon nitwit that ever lived.

[MamaLucci]

I concur. Substitute the term "socialist" with "fascist", and this piece is right on the money.

[steve50]

The neocons are well entrenched in the party. The attempt now seems to be to paint the true conservatives with the "hard or fringe right" handle while seperating themselves from the neocon tag. Seems to be working, you don't hear the neocon label on the idiot box much anymore.

[habs4ever]

Ronald Reagan would classify as a neo, but he wasn't nearly conservative enough, was he? Its always so nice to get a forearm shiv from the bunch that does its best to turn everyone away from conservatism because it isn't "conservative enough". Keep beating your chest.

[4CJ]

Neo-conservatives see nothing wrong with big, centralized government.

Hamiltonian Federalists. Whigs. Socialists.

I would rather "throw my vote away" on an independent or third-party candidate and sleep well at night because I didn't contribute to the continuing downfall of our lost republic by voting for a neo-conservative/socialist, than choose "the lesser of two evils" and know that I voted into office someone who was going to go for my wallet and stab me in the back as if he were a common street mugger.

Bingo!