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To: BMCDA
But consider this: why should it be a goal to have a "stable society where the happiness of as many people as possible is as high as possible?" . . . . Because it's more desirable. How do you find out? Well, just observe where most people in the world want to live if they could choose freely. I'd wager it's the West and there especially the U.S. (the happiness "sink" ;-D)

You and I think that because we have been ingrained to think that. Saddam Hussein would disagree -- as would everybody who thinks they could be a Saddam. They would think the most desirable government is them ruling and us as slaves.

Now, we're right and Hussein, Stalin et al were/are wrong. But our understanding didn't occur by random chance in a vacuum.

Our nation is founded -- with premeditation on Christ's teachings.

Franklin and Jefferson -- who didn't believe in the Lord's divinity -- wanted his teachings established. Adams, Washington, Alexander Hamilton and Patrick Henry (should he be pinged?) were fairly traditional Christians and weren't going to disagree.

And because you and I are Americans guided by Christian values -- whether we believe that Jesus is God or not -- we think that our goal should be to have a "stable society where the happiness of as many people as possible is as high as possible."

312 posted on 08/14/2002 6:17:11 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
You don't have to use Saddam or Stalin as negative examples. If you go further back in time and regard European monarchies, you'll notice that they were also founded on Christ's teaching and that even officially, unlike the U.S.
They were officially recognized by the Christian churches (catholic, protestant and eastern orthodox) thus they really believed that it was the form of government that God wanted.

So it really seems that everyone tries to use the teachings of Christ (or any other god, prophet, etc.) to justify whatever he thinks is right.

315 posted on 08/14/2002 6:47:53 PM PDT by BMCDA
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