[HumanaeVitae]

True.

There never was, nor ever will be a truly libertarian society. Oh, wait. France from 1791-93 may qualify.

[Mark17]

later reading

[185JHP]

The period you mention ('91-'93) was aptly described as "a chaos of levity and ferocity." Something many of the greed/perversity driven 'tarians believe they'd enjoy. The plan to attack Bob Barr, one of the best people in Congress - would that have anyting to do with cheaper, safer drugs, to be used without stigma?

[another cricket]

There never was, nor ever will be a truly libertarian society.

Maybe so but if you read the Book of Judges in the Christian and Jewish Bible you will see it came awful close.

This was a group that was pretty homogenous in its makeup, had a strong set of laws and customs, and a common language and religion. Plus was blessed by God. And they couldn't make it work.

The problems were constant in fighting, lawlessness and constant invasion and oppression from neighbors. One of the tribes was all but wiped out in this period by the other twelve. The reason that they demanded a King was because they were tired of getting smacked around by every two-bit nation with an army.

There is no reason to think that we would fair any better. And we don't have the pluses that they had.

Read the book in any case. Some really great stories, Ehud in chapter 3 is a favorite of mine.

a.cricket

[A.J.Armitage]

I mean this in the best possible way, but it gets really tiresome listening to you guys saying everything you don't like is just like the French Revolution. No libertarian would say as Robespierre did, "It is also true that this sublime sentiment assumes a preference for the public interest over every particular interest; hence the love of country presupposes or produces all the virtues: for what are they other than that spiritual strength which renders one capable of those sacrifices? And how could the slave of avarice or ambition, for example, sacrifice his idol to his country?" Nor would a libertarian want state-sponsored worship of a deistic supreme being. Last time I checked, that's what conservatives want. (Or do you think the "god" we're supposed to be "under" is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob?)