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To: jennyp
What exactly are you measuring when you measure "information" WRT our bodies? The length of the genome, the number of genes, the number of proteins, or what?

All those things. Bascially, commands and data that didn't previously exist in the genome. In this case, information seems to exist but simply lay dormant.

Your code example (A [the promoter region getting triggered] == TRUE), but is now activated when (A AND B == TRUE) would indicate a programing change and an information increase. But suppose the code was written --I'm not a programmer so forgive the incorrect syntex -- as (A == TRUE) Unless RNA = Double THEN (A AND B == TRUE)?

That would not be an increase in information.

36 posted on 08/11/2002 12:03:39 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
Running joke is 'evo-science'...biggest cult of oxy-moonie-morons---art bells!
Like patrickhenry..."search for the creator via evolution"---

"total--only evolution" too---

The pope encyclical rightwingprofessor-whack thinks/interprets..."professes evolution"---

Nebullis..."preschool evolution---INTENSIVELY"---

donh..."if the sun can create crystals-snowflakes...human life would certainly follow"---

dominick harr..."just like a ball bouncing down the stairs----evolution created everything"---

jennyp..."anarchist evolutionary capitalism---Christianity is communism"---

and patrickhenry doesn't know..."if prior to darwin---if science existed"...

SkyRat...Divine hammer-retribution from above via evolution!

Running sores of evo schlock!


37 posted on 08/11/2002 12:10:01 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Tribune7

Your code example (A [the promoter region getting triggered] == TRUE), but is now activated when (A AND B == TRUE) would indicate a programing change and an information increase. But suppose the code was written --I'm not a programmer so forgive the incorrect syntex -- as (A == TRUE) Unless RNA = Double THEN (A AND B == TRUE)?

That would not be an increase in information.

Hmmm... I was trying to reduce your desription to code, but I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to describe. (I can tell you're not a programmer. :-)

What I was describing was the logical expression that gets evaluated when the gene (G, we'll call it) gets activated & transcribed (condition A). If originally G got transcribed & eventually produced protein P, and then later a regulatory mechanism evolved that sometimes prevented P from getting produced, that mechanism could act at one of several points: It could prevent the activator from being produced in the first place, it could prevent the activator from reaching G & starting translation, it could prevent translation into P in midstream (like the RNAi seems to do), or it could block P somehow after it's produced. Either way it's a more complex system than the one without the regulation, even if the result is less P's getting produced in the cell.

38 posted on 08/11/2002 1:58:17 PM PDT by jennyp
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